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CptGianduja
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Posted: March 10 2004 at 12:49pm | IP Logged Quote CptGianduja

I own a wonderful Mauser 98 bolt action rifle in 9 x 57 Mauser ( the ammos are made by using the Mauser 8 X 57 JS shell expanded on the neck to receive from .356 to .358 bullets ).

Ammos are not curretly manufactured since the end of the 60s and I would like to know if someone owns reloading data for this caliber.

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Andy Luis ( Milan Italy )

I'm really sorry for my english !



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Posted: March 10 2004 at 3:16pm | IP Logged Quote Fish Guide

Don't have any load data, but I'd say your english is a lot better then some of ours here in this country. No apologies needed.

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Posted: March 10 2004 at 3:27pm | IP Logged Quote Rod WMG

Glad to have you aboard, Andy.

Contact Sierra Bullets. They have access to a lot of old manuals and probably have data.
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Actually, I do have some info on the 9X57, but it is extremely old and I don't know if the powders mentioned are even made any more, but here it is:

The following was take from Ludwig Olsen's "Mauser Bolt Rifles"

DMW cartridges:

Bullet weight 247 grains, Powder: 46.2 grains of R5
Bullet weight 281 Grains, Powder: 38.5 grains T1910.

R5 powder is described as Rottweil smokeless rifle leaf powder type 5.

T1910 is described as Troisdorfer smokeless leaf powder type 1910.

There is also a british load described as follows:

Bullet weight 245 grains, Powder 47 grains N.C.

The book does not define what N.C. powder is.

Hopefully, the rottwiel powder is still available in Europe, or maybe you can find info about it.

This cartridge is not well known in the U.S., and 9MM rifles bullets are almost unheard of. 9.3's are starting to show up here and there though.

Hope this helps.

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Posted: March 10 2004 at 9:13pm | IP Logged Quote Paul5388

Andy,

Welcome aboard!

I'm wondering if the loading data for the .358 Win couldn't be used as a starting point? It's based on the .308 Win (NATO) which has a similar case capacity to the X57's or at least that's what it looks like when the 7mm-08 and 7X57 are compared with the same bullets. Of course, the 7X57 is only loaded to 46,000 instead of 52,000 like the 08's, but a .358 Win load should yield a lower pressure in the 9X57.

Someone else comment on this before it gets past the wondering stage.
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Posted: March 11 2004 at 2:45am | IP Logged Quote 445supermag

andy your englas is better than some other,s . Yes you can use 358 win data for your start loads and work up. Also you can use 8x57 top end load for starters. I also have a 9x57. I use a ch4d bullet sizer to form 355 dia bullits from 358 dia. . My barrel mikes out to 355 check yours. Handloader has a write up on the 9x57 and 9x56 ms. Wolf publishing has a book big boar rifles that has loads for the 9x57. Now i need load data for 8x57R360.
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Posted: March 11 2004 at 7:38pm | IP Logged Quote RobertD

Andy,

You might check out Fred Zeglin's website at

www.z-hat.com

He makes a bullet swaging die that can covert 358 bullets to 355 or 357.

If you haven't already tried this, you might look into cast bullets.

Sorry, I don't have any load data for the 9x57.

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Posted: March 16 2004 at 4:35am | IP Logged Quote Thunder Hunter

Andy I was looking over some info, and remember your request for 9x57. Norma was manufacturing this recently, although I'm sure there is still some in stock. The loaded rounds they show where the 232gr., 286gr. The dealer in Italy for this product is as follows;

Bignami Spa
Via Lahn 8
1-39040 Ora (BZ)
Telefono: +39 471 810644

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Posted: March 28 2004 at 9:42pm | IP Logged Quote CptGianduja

Here a great webpage with lot of infos :

http://www.african-hunter.com/9x57_mauser.htm

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Posted: March 28 2004 at 9:57pm | IP Logged Quote Paul5388

Andy,

I found this on the Norma reloading site. It's for the 9.3 X 57, but would be real close to what you're looking for.
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