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Posted: December 05 2008 at 6:21pm | IP Logged Quote Raw Win Mag

I recently bought 3 pounds of Reloader 22. I planned on using it to load 300 Win. Mag. & also was told there were some good loads out there for .308 as well.
Well, I have yet to find a load I am looking for.
I want to load Sierra 168 gr. BTHP Match.
Any one have any load Date for RL 22 & the 168 gr. for the .308?
I would greatly appreciate it.
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Posted: December 05 2008 at 6:52pm | IP Logged Quote Bullfrog

Welcome to the Forum RWM

I have never used RL-22 but you have come to the right place, because I know someone here has!

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Posted: December 05 2008 at 7:16pm | IP Logged Quote 35wailer

Not any data out there that I know of. I bet someone's used it tho. I'd stick with a faster powder like RL-15 or Varget and she'll sing a pretty tune.   

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I have more with Barnes & Speer.

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Posted: December 05 2008 at 7:46pm | IP Logged Quote M700

Reloader 22 is a wonderful powder for your .300 magnum, but too slow for the .308 Win.

For the .308, look at something like Varget or Reloader 15.

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Posted: December 05 2008 at 7:47pm | IP Logged Quote Raw Win Mag

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Thanks, that will work for the .300, but any-thing for the .308?

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Posted: December 05 2008 at 7:52pm | IP Logged Quote M700

"Reloder 22

Smokeless magnum rifle powder
This top-performing powder for big game loads provides excellent metering, and is the powder of choice for .270, 7mm magnum and .300 Win Mag.

    * Powder of choice for 7mm Mag & .300 Win Mag
    * Excellent metering
    * Accurate and consistent"

The above is quoted from Alliant's web site. It's their powder - and they don't recommend it for the .308 Win. There's a reason for that.

You'll really need to use a powder more appropriate for the .308 Win to get good results.

IMR 4064, Varget, Reloader 15 are all considered excellent powders for the .308 Win.

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Posted: December 05 2008 at 7:57pm | IP Logged Quote 35wailer

RL-22 is probably gonna leave you somewhere more in than the .30-30 Win velocity zone and a bit of unburnt powder. Have used RL-19 in the .308 and have had the same results.   

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Posted: December 05 2008 at 8:03pm | IP Logged Quote M700

"Reloder 15

Smokeless medium rifle powder
The best all-around medium speed rifle powder. It provides excellent .223 and .308 caliber performance. Selected as the powder for U.S. Military's M118 special ball long range sniper round.

    * Broad caliber range
    * Consistent in all temperatures
    * High velocity varmint loads"

There's Alliant's write-up for Reloader 15.

Me? Mostly I use Varget for my .308 loads, and it tends to work really well with both 168 and 155 grain target loads.

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Posted: December 05 2008 at 8:13pm | IP Logged Quote Raw Win Mag

M700
Thanks for that info, I pretty much figured that, but was surprised the gun shop had the powder at all.
I'll stick with the RL-15 I have been using and now have more then enough for the 300 win mag.
I bought it for a New Rem. Model 700 XCR I just picked up recently & listened to the wrong guy on using it for the .308. Oh well, I have extra now.
I do more competition shooting then hunting, but have a trip to Florida planned is why I bought it, plus we all know, one gun turns into to two and so on. Had to have it.
Thanks again & to all for the quick Response's.
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Posted: December 05 2008 at 8:25pm | IP Logged Quote Raw Win Mag

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I have not tried Varget in the .308, but have used it in the .223 and had very good results, but switched to the RL-15 and it shoots pretty much the same at 200 & 300 yards so I pickedup 5 pounds.
I'll try the Varget ou in the .308.
I am looking for the best .308 load, of course, for my Springfield NM M1A to shoot competition this Spring.
I am in Ohio, where it's 19 degrees out right now, so I am limited to .22 conversion kit inside in my Rock River AR.
What .308 Rifle do you load for?
I just picked up a second Rock River .223 off Gunbroker for $1025.00 last week.
Same guy I buy from, surprised so cheap now.
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Posted: December 05 2008 at 9:06pm | IP Logged Quote 35wailer

AR prices have gone up in leaps and bounds. Just remember 6 years ago picking up a used but basically NIB Rock River at a gunshow for $600. Times be changin'!   

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Posted: December 05 2008 at 9:14pm | IP Logged Quote Raw Win Mag

Yep,
Just 8 or so months ago I got a Rock River National Match AR, for $1050.00.
Same rifle, same dealer, $1450.00 now.

Crazy to see it jump, but I understand, who knows what's next.
That's why I jumped on the one last week, think he miss quoted me, but he honored his quote, plus I have bought a few from him over a year orplus..
Think I paid $800.00 for my first Bushmaster AR in 1998.
I needed the whistle and Bells then. ha
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Posted: December 05 2008 at 9:23pm | IP Logged Quote 35wailer

I did the same thing on my first. Paid $950 for a plain jane Armalite A2 20" back in 2000. Even has the green furniture. But no complaints tho. Still my favorite one. Catch myself lookin' at new ones every once in awhile but the price tags always send me runnin'.

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Posted: December 05 2008 at 9:37pm | IP Logged Quote Raw Win Mag

Sold my AR-10 over the summer, what a kick in the but.
Could have doubled my money now. Most likely I would keep it if I had it. But I needed the cash to keep in the competition game and reloading.
Ordered another in .308 about 6 months ago, who knows when it will come in.

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Raw Win Mag - Currently I load the .308 for a varmint weight bolt gun and also for a Browning BLR. Used to load it for a 30" barreled Palma rifle, but sold that rifle earlier this year.

Have been using Varget and 168's & 155's for my competition load for quite a few years. Both across-the-course matches and long-range prone stuff.

I don't know how Varget would work out for a semi-auto.
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Posted: December 06 2008 at 11:22am | IP Logged Quote Raw Win Mag

M700,
Can you tell me what you use as a receipe for the 168's ?
The Powder load, Brass, Primers, and Your Over-All Case length.
I'll get what I used and send it to you in a bit.
So I can see if we use similar or completly different.

Thanks Again,
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Posted: December 06 2008 at 11:55am | IP Logged Quote M700

Sure - I've been using the same target load for a lot of years and a few barrels:

Lapua brass, 45 gr Varget, Fed 210 match primers, 168 Sierra or Nosler match bullets, loaded to 2.8" so they feed from the magazine.

I'm getting about 2730 fps depending, and shooting high master scores with it at 600 yards.

For the 30" Palma rifle I went with the 155 grain Sierras, or Noslers, and upped the powder charge to 46.5 grains. That produced 2980 fps from the 30" barrel and 2850 fps when I shoot it from the 24" Krieger.

My loads are under max according to Nosler & Hodgdon, and over max according to my older Sierra manual. They've never given me any problems. Sometimes, particularly on across-the-course matches, I'll use Winchester brass instead of Lapua.

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Posted: December 06 2008 at 6:01pm | IP Logged Quote Raw Win Mag

M700,
Thank you for your load info. I'll load a set and try them out in my Springfield NM M1A.
I am always trying different peoples loads. It's the only way to find out what works best.
I have been using RL-15 42.0 grains, Sierra 168 gr. HPBT Match, Winchester Brass & Remington Bench Rest Primers.
That has seemed to work very well in that Rifle, and I have a new Bench Rest Rifle to try out this coming year.
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Posted: January 26 2009 at 7:36am | IP Logged Quote alaska bush man

Reloader 22 is not the suggested powder for the 308 Win......Reloader 15 with 165gr/168gr or 180gr bullets....and Reloder 10 with 150gr bullets.

Reloader 22 performs excellent in the 270 win and 300 win Mag.....very good powder that performs very close to H4831 and Norma MRP in burn rate and performance.

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