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Posted: May 12 2009 at 1:27pm | IP Logged Quote nauran99

Hello everyone,

Another newcomer here to the reloading world. I am
hoping someone might be able to help me with my
reloading setups below.

I have the following 2 bullet/powder/pistol combinations
that I will be reloading.

combo 1:
- Montana Gold 40/10mm 165 gn JHP Bullets
- Hodgdon Tite Group powder
- Springfield XD-40 SubCompact (3")

combo 2:
- Barnes .400" 155 GR TAC-XP FB (10MM/40 S&W) bullets
- Hodgdon Tite Group powder
- Springfield XD-40 SubCompact (3")

I am using mixed brass & Federal small pistol primers.

Has anyone worked with Montana Gold JHP bullets by
chance or have any load data?

Also, Barnes doesn't have much data when using Hodgdon
TiteGroup; and Hodgdon doesn't have anything published
for Barnes bullets. Is using a same-weighted bullet of
a different manufacturer with this powder an OK starting
point and OK to do?

Thanks!
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Posted: May 12 2009 at 2:33pm | IP Logged Quote The_Shadow

BTW, nauran99, welcome to Handloads forum! I have used the 165Grains in 10mm mostly. I mostly use Blue Dot & Power Pistol powders. Great bullets by the way.

For the TiteGroup; With the 165 grain MG bullets COAL of 1.120", You could use 5.0 grains @ 957 fps up to 5.4 grains @ 1035 fps from 4" pistol.

Barnes .400" 155 GR TAC-XP FB(these are all copper bullets I believe, copper is lighter and they maybe longer to achieve the weight), measure the length of these bullets and compare the length of the MG to see if they are about the same length. If the length is close you could start with the same load.

Good luck!

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Posted: May 12 2009 at 3:00pm | IP Logged Quote nauran99

Thanks for the welcome and information.

The_Shadow wrote:
For the TiteGroup; With the 165
grain MG bullets COAL of 1.120", You could use 5.0
grains @ 957 fps up to 5.4 grains @ 1035 fps from 4"
pistol.
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Question related to the above quote. You listed it for
a 4" barrel. Is there any major difference going down
to a 3" in your experience?
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Posted: May 12 2009 at 7:30pm | IP Logged Quote The_Shadow

You will have a slightly slower velocity with the shorter barrel, but should be fine. This is where handloading has it benefits, slecting powders and bullets tailored to the equipment being used.

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Posted: May 12 2009 at 9:27pm | IP Logged Quote stick_man

First off, welcome to the forum. The information is abundant here and I am sure somebody will be able to help you with just about any question you could ask.

As to the Barnes bullets, yes, they are all copper and are lighter for length than standard jacketed bullets. I haven't had any experience loading them in pistol calibers, but in rifle calibers, the Barnes bullets are typically closse to the same length as the next heavier weight standard bullet. I have found Ty Herring at Barnes to be very helpful. I would try contacting him for some load data. If they don't have it already at hand, they can generally get it for you on short order. Their customer service is generally topnotch. Their contact info is on their website (www.barnesbullets.com)

Good luck and Happy Reloading!
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stick_man wrote:
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As to the Barnes bullets, yes, they are all copper and
are lighter for length than standard jacketed bullets.
I haven't had any experience loading them in pistol
calibers, but in rifle calibers, the Barnes bullets are
typically closse to the same length as the next heavier
weight standard bullet. I have found Ty Herring at
Barnes to be very helpful. I would try contacting him
for some load data. If they don't have it already at
hand, they can generally get it for you on short order.
Their customer service is generally topnotch. Their
contact info is on their website (www.barnesbullets.com)
...


Thanks!

I actually have contacted Barnes directly for loading
with this specific powder...they didn't have that
combination. They had info with other powders though.
They also said the same that you did that their regular
reloading clients would have rifle information, but
pistol reloading isn't as abundant.

I will keep eye out and watch though.


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