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Posted: November 06 2009 at 2:05pm | IP Logged Quote ArmyBucker

Gentlemen,
    I recently aquired a Remington 700 in 22-250. anyone have some good loads to run through it? Currently, I'm running 50 grain Hornaday SPSX with 32 grains of IMR 4895 behind it. I started on the low end, but just curious what others are using & what the MAX load would or should be.
    Thanks guys, I truly appreciate any & all advice!

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Posted: November 06 2009 at 2:18pm | IP Logged Quote joed

I no longer have a .22-250 but I used H380 in mine with the 55 gr bullet.   Bruce Hodgdon named this powder for the most accurate load he came up with in a .22-250. My load was somewhere around 39 gr though.   

Also heard that W760 works well in this cartridge.

For most of my rifle carrying life I always wanted a .22-250. The first one I bought was a high priced Savage that didn't group well. The second, a Rem 700 VS was a good one that shot groups half the size of the Savage.

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Arrgh! Just saw you are using the 50 gr SPSX. You may have a problem if that is a super explosive bullet. The .22-250s claim to fame is velocity. It most likely is capable of pushing that bullet faster then it can go. You'll know this if it disintegrates on the way to the target.

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Posted: November 06 2009 at 3:39pm | IP Logged Quote Woods

joed is correct. The SX line was made for speeds of 3500'/sec. and below. Anything above that will cause the bullet to disintegrate in mid-air. Even at lower velocities, a fast twist can pull the bullets apart from centrifugal force. They were made for 222 and 223 velocities.

Our old standby load for the 22-250 was 38 grains of H380 with the Sierra 53 gr. HP match bullet. Another was 33 gr. of 3031 with the same bullet. Both yield around 3600'/sec and were tack drivers.

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Posted: November 06 2009 at 6:37pm | IP Logged Quote redneckpaul

40 grains of H380 with a 40 grain Hornady v-max. Gives me 3900+ fps out of my Stevens 200. Very accurate with this rifle. Use it for prarie dogs and coyotes.
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Posted: November 06 2009 at 7:01pm | IP Logged Quote M700

Another vote for H380. Work up towards the max load as listed by Hodgdon.

The SX might be too fragile for the velocity your .22-250 can generate. I like the 52 - 53 grain Sierra hollow point bullets.

Some .22-250's with a relatively slow rate of twist can't handle the longer .224" bullets like some of the plastic tip versions of the classic 55 grain bullet... I've seen that.

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Posted: November 07 2009 at 10:27pm | IP Logged Quote StretchNM

I have a Rem700BDL Varmint SF in 22-250. I'm still building loads for this rifle. Here's what works in mine...so far. ALL are 5-shot groups at 100 yards. Some, but not all, are consistent (able to shoot similarly when loaded and shot another day).

- SIE 40gr Varm HP-flat. 36.0 IMR4064, CCI200, V-3900, OAL 2.300"HC (heavy crimp). GRP: .3", .5" low, .7" left

- SPR 50gr TNT HP-flat. 34.0 IMR4895, CCI200, V-3560, OAL 2.400"HC. GRP: .5", .5" high, DdCtr

- SPR 55gr Varmint SP-flat. 38.0 H380, CCI200, V-3500, OAL 2.415"HC. GRP: .4", DdCtr, .3" left

- SIE 60gr Varm HP-flat. 33.5 IMR4064, CCI200, V-3400, OAL 2.350. GRP: .271", DdCtr, .3" right

Each rifle is different. These work well in mine (especially in that 60gr Varminter with IMR4064!!)

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Shot from a Remington 788
Hard to beat H380 in the .22-250
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 4:43pm | IP Logged Quote redneckpaul

mag41vance wrote:


Shot from a Remington 788
Hard to beat H380 in the .22-250


Nice shooting

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Posted: November 17 2009 at 7:02am | IP Logged Quote Boomer

Vance,,, You stole my load!

+1 for H380, My 700 loves it under Sierra's, just like Vances.

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From what I have read, all the 22-250s have slower
twists than the 223s. I dont know why that is.

Barns has new 62gr and 70gr super tough .224 bullets
and Nosler has a 60gr partition tough bullet
for hunting deer with the 22-250 but I dont think
any of the 22-250s can stabalize the Barnes bullets.

If I were to get a 22-250 I would want it in 8 to 1
twist.   

Some would question a 22 caliber for deer but
with the heavy Barnes bullet at 22-250 speeds I
would not be skeptical at all.   I would expect
it to do at least the damage of a 30-30 if not
more and the 30-30 is generally considered sometime
to be the minimum... Although some are hunting
with 357mag in their rifles these days.
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Posted: November 26 2009 at 4:49pm | IP Logged Quote StretchNM

Mine is a 1 in 14 and it will not shoot the Barnes and Berger 60gr bullets well. It just won;t get them spinning fast enough. It does well with Nosler, Sierra, and Hornady 60 gr bullets - they don;t have that extra length, I suppose.

It's fine for me though. The 22-250 is one of several rifles and it has its own purpose. It shoots 60gr Sierras just fine, in fact my best 5-shot group is .271". A 1 in 12 would be acceptable to me, but nothing faster.

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preventec47 wrote:
From what I have read, all the 22-250s have slower
twists than the 223s. I dont know why that is.

The .22-250 was designed to shoot a 55 gr bullet, and of course the .223 was too.   The reason for the .223 shooting heavy bullets is because of the long distance shooting done in matches.   To compete at 600 yards a heavier bullet then 55 gr was needed in the .223.   

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I run a Barnes 36gr HP over 40.7 of Varget @ 2.365 OAL... Runs over 4000fps from a custom Mauser, VERY accurate. 1/2" groups @ 200yds
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Posted: December 03 2009 at 4:31pm | IP Logged Quote TexIndian

I'm thinking that the slower twist rates in 22-250 is because of the higher velocity when compared with the .223. Even though the twist rate is slower, the extra velocity results in an rpm rate that is higher than a .223, even with a newer .223 with something like a 1:9 twist.

That could work against you with real fragile bullets, as mentioned above. I've never tried that combination before, but I have been fairly successful in pushing other varmint bullets beyond their limit (not by exceeding pressures, but by using lighter bullets than typically used in a given caliber).

The only way to tell is to keep going up in velocity and see if they stop hitting the target except for some lead spray maybe. I'd check my bore between shots if I was pushing the envelope just to make sure no stray pieces get left there. Never had that happen, but it seems like the right thing to do.

One thing about it - when I've pushed light bullets like that to the limit, they literally explode on impact. Great for something small like our prairie dogs, but not so great for larger critters.

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Posted: December 04 2009 at 6:25am | IP Logged Quote Boomer

+1 on Tex's post. I have a friend who pushes his 22-250 to the limit. (1-14 twist, ruger 77) Hornady and Sierra bullets print at the same spot at 200 yards, but at 300, the Sierra's dont make the trip, while the Hornady's do.

Dont remember for certian which Sierra it was, but I'm sure it was a 52 or 53 grain match bullet.

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Boomer wrote:
(1-14 twist, ruger 77) Hornady and Sierra bullets print at the same spot at 200 yards, but at 300, the Sierra's dont make the trip, while the Hornady's do.


I would have to see that with my own eyes before I
would believe it. I would even bet money that no
bullet that would print at 200 would disintegrate
before 300 yards. Of course I have lost lots of bets
but won some too.
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Posted: December 04 2009 at 7:09am | IP Logged Quote Boomer

Well,, OK,, dont beleive it, but I did see it happen.

How does one prove to you the bullet disintegrated between 200 and 300 yards? It's not like we have a high speed camera at the range.

I suppose the other theory would be the Hornady's have some mystical ballistic capability that makes them shoot 5 feet higher (or lower) than the Sierra's at 300 yards when zeroed to the same point of impact at 200.... That more believable to ya?

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Posted: December 04 2009 at 8:26am | IP Logged Quote redneckpaul

I`m no expert on this but I would think if a bullet is going to disintegrate it will happen as soon as it leaves the barrel. Thats when it`s velocity is at its max and the RPM rate is at its max. On the other hand maybe it takes a fraction of a second for it to come apart and thats why they would come apart between 200 and 300 yards. Never had a bullet come apart on me so I`m just guessing.
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Posted: December 04 2009 at 8:36am | IP Logged Quote Boomer

Note I said they "didn't make the trip" not that they disintegrated... Could be they started coming apart at about 200 yards and started tumbling, Although I never observed a bullet impact anywhere when this was happening..

Hell, it may have been a bad batch of bullets.. Thing is, disintegration is the most probably cause.

    



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