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Posted: February 10 2012 at 7:20pm | IP Logged Quote mudbuddygriz

OKAY SO I GOT SOME DOGTOWN 50 GR HOLLOW POINTS AND SOME 40 GR V-MAX AND SOME VARGET AND IMR 4198 ANY HELP ON A GOOD STARTER LOAD?

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Posted: February 10 2012 at 7:51pm | IP Logged Quote gotsig?

26.0- 27.0g of Varget will get you started on the 50g loads.

Hodgdon's data

relax on the CAPS.....

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Posted: February 10 2012 at 9:47pm | IP Logged Quote TexIndian

The Hodgdon data linked by gotsig includes IMR powders.

I've always had good results using 4198 with bullets under 55gr. Those 40gr bullets are really moving although the wind and air resistance eats at them pretty fast.

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Posted: February 11 2012 at 6:25pm | IP Logged Quote hoghunter

26.0 Varget with 50 grain bullets is my standard load for the 223. It shoots very well in all my 223's from the light Rem Model 7 in 20" barrel to heavy barrelled 26" varminters.

Very clean, tempertaure stable, and very accurate.

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Posted: February 11 2012 at 7:17pm | IP Logged Quote FM12

H335. Thank me later.

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Posted: February 11 2012 at 8:28pm | IP Logged Quote The_Shadow

Hodgdon's 2012 Annual shows the 40 grain Nosler BT using,

IMR4198 starting load of 19.5 @ 3269 - 42500 psi
IMR4198 top end load of 22.2 @ 3652 - 53,400psi

Hope this helps!

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Posted: February 11 2012 at 9:48pm | IP Logged Quote gotsig?

FM12 wrote:
H335. Thank me later.


H335 is no joke either. That would have been my choice, but I was just going with what he had on hand.
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Posted: February 12 2012 at 6:03pm | IP Logged Quote hoghunter

H335 is an excellent powder especially with 55 grain bullets. I used it for years but switched to Varget for cleaner burning and better temperture stability but can't argue with H335.
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Posted: February 12 2012 at 6:08pm | IP Logged Quote 50DEP

I also have to agree with FM12. H335 is great in the 223 rem. But let us not forget H322.

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Posted: February 12 2012 at 8:52pm | IP Logged Quote JohnT

Awh, com`on mudbuddy,,the 223 is one of the easiest to load for,
dig up a few stats from the books and have at it
Starting loads? Com`on,,,
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Posted: February 13 2012 at 8:35pm | IP Logged Quote mudbuddygriz

JohnT wrote:
Awh, com`on mudbuddy,,the 223 is one of the easiest to load for,
dig up a few stats from the books and have at it
Starting loads? Com`on,,,

I'M sorry I have tons of manuals to read, however I love the knowledge of the members on this sight.

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Posted: February 13 2012 at 8:38pm | IP Logged Quote mudbuddygriz

hoghunter wrote:
26.0 Varget with 50 grain bullets is my standard load for the 223. It shoots very well in all my 223's from the light Rem Model 7 in 20" barrel to heavy barrelled 26" varminters.

Very clean, tempertaure stable, and very accurate.


OUTSTANDING!!!! half inch groups im gonna make 200 this weedend!

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Posted: February 14 2012 at 8:32am | IP Logged Quote JohnT

I've got the lowley Handi Rifle shooting dime size groups at 200 with a load very simular to that.
Don't forget to focus on concentricity issues and by all mean experiment with seating depth.
Getting runout under control was THE biggest group tightener technique I found when I started loading.
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Posted: February 14 2012 at 10:20am | IP Logged Quote NVcaster

Has anybody used Benchmark, I've been using Varget and
H4895 and have been tempted to try Benchmark.

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Posted: February 14 2012 at 2:59pm | IP Logged Quote 50DEP

Have used benchmark and great results in my CZ 527V. .5" or less from bench @ 100yds with Hornay 50gr Vmax. Still playing with differant bullets at this time.

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gotsig? wrote:
26.0- 27.0g of Varget will get you
started on the 50g loads.

Hodgdon's

data


relax on the CAPS.....



26.0 gr Varget was my load with the 69 gr match bullet.
For light bullets in the .223 I'd want Benchmark.
There's some good powders out there. An extremely
popular one is TAC though I haven't used it. I did
however use Benchmark and highly recommend it.

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Posted: February 14 2012 at 6:51pm | IP Logged Quote hoghunter

I've used Benchmark in the 223. I found it works best for me in my shorter barrel 223's (22" and under)and with 50 grain bullets. Especially in my Model 7 which has a 20 inch barrel.

However I went back to Varget because it just shoots consistant for me out of all my 223 rifles which all have 12" twists and I wanted to simplify my powder inventory. Also, it shoots tighter with 55 grain bullets out of my rifles.




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Posted: February 14 2012 at 11:47pm | IP Logged Quote JohnT

Benchmark has worked well for me with light bullets 40grn Vmax and 36grn Varmint Grenades
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Posted: February 16 2012 at 5:24am | IP Logged Quote ArchAngelCD

I agree a charge of 26.0gr Varget with that 50gr bullet will be a good place to start with the powders you have. There's nothing wrong with H335 either. I have used both Varget and H335 with a 55gr Gameking and both delivered great accuracy although Varget was just a little better. (but not enough to buy powder if you already had H335)
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Posted: February 18 2012 at 11:59am | IP Logged Quote Buffalogun

MBG,

I'd start with a starting load and a OAL of 2.270" and adjust from there.


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