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Posted: January 06 2013 at 2:25am | IP Logged Quote Josh1980

New to the forum but I've been reloading
for quite a while. Is anyone on here
loading for the new .22 TCM? Ive got a
few new loads I've put together that shout
great but due to the crappy weather
haven't been able to run any through the
chrony (indoor range).
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Posted: January 06 2013 at 5:26am | IP Logged Quote joed

Live and learn, I had to look this one up as I've never heard of a TCM.

I'd like to hear how this does for you.

And welcome to the forum.
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Posted: January 06 2013 at 8:48am | IP Logged Quote gstanfield

Welcome to the forum!! I have no input on the 22TCM, but I
hope you will share your results with us. We all like to
learn about new things, especially if they come with
pictures!

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Posted: January 06 2013 at 9:34am | IP Logged Quote The_Shadow

While the 22TCM is a 9mm necked down to .224", there was one before it which was the .224BOZ. It has a very short history...The .224 BOZ was developed by Civil Defense Supply, located in the United Kingdom, and was begun as a Special Forces ammunition project for police and military use.

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Posted: January 06 2013 at 9:42am | IP Logged Quote Paul5388

Interesting! Here's a video that shows some of the features in a RIA .22 TCM/9mm. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ69tHTrYJ0

BTW, the video says dies are in the making, but ARMSCOR will load your brass for $12.50/50.

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Posted: January 06 2013 at 3:02pm | IP Logged Quote Josh1980

Shadow- Actually it's based on the .223
case as the case head diameter is a little
smaller than 9x19 and the obvious case
length difference. The pistol comes with
a seperate barrel for firing 9x19 and
includes a different extractor for that
caliber as well. Im quite familiar with the
oroginal boz round that was based on the
10mm case, I've thought about building a
set of dies for that caliber.   I had to build
my own factpry crimp die for the TCM and
it works great. Here's a pic with a few
TCMs, a 9x19, and a .45 for
comparison


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Posted: January 06 2013 at 3:37pm | IP Logged Quote The_Shadow

I stand corrected, I was confusing the BOZ that was based on both the 10mm & 9mm casing designs. The RIA .22 TCM/9mm is very neat. I was showing my B-I-L the RIA pistol the other day on their webpage. It looks like fun!

The .224BOZ, was an interesting concept, it would be neat to add that to my collection of cartridges I load for but the impulse is short and the guns chamber for those had the slides skelotonized to lighten their mass.
Getting barrels & dies for the .224BOZ would be interesting

I load the 9x25Dillon and 357Sig cartridges which are fun to shoot from my 10mm guns with the change of the barrels.



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Posted: January 06 2013 at 3:48pm | IP Logged Quote The_Shadow

BTW Josh, Welcome to th forum!

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Posted: January 06 2013 at 3:48pm | IP Logged Quote Paul5388

Since the .223 is a little different in the head area, factory .22 TCM are cut the same as 9mm. That means there isn't a need for a different extractor. The RIA .22 TCM comes with a 9mm barrel and recoil spring with two magazines that will work with either caliber. Here's an article from American Handloader.

http://www.armscor.com.ph/img/AmericanHandgunnerJanFeb2012.p df

It should be noted that even though it resembles the 5.7X28, it's about 350 fps faster and costs a lot less in original purchase and ammunition price.

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Edited by lovesrugers on January 06 2013 at 6:21pm
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Posted: January 06 2013 at 4:28pm | IP Logged Quote Josh1980

I can't seem to get any of my pictures to post. How do you guys post
them?

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Posted: January 06 2013 at 4:36pm | IP Logged Quote gstanfield





Very cool. Your links were broken a bit so I fixed them. I'm guessing you are posting from
google chrome, it does not seem to work so great with the forum. It's what I am using too,
but you have to click and drag to make your text box larger or it splits things into seperate
lines for some reason.

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Posted: January 06 2013 at 6:09pm | IP Logged Quote The_Shadow

Thanks George, I was looking to see how I could view his picture...


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Posted: January 06 2013 at 6:09pm | IP Logged Quote Paul5388

Good job George! I tried working with the code and wasn't successful.

That little ballistic tip looks real interesting!

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Posted: January 06 2013 at 7:15pm | IP Logged Quote Josh1980

Paul- That's a Hornady 35 grain Vax. The
main problem with this round is that the
OAL needs to be kept fairly short to clear
the magazine. I've only found 3
commercial bullets so far that are short
enough to clear. I've ended up with a few
boxes of hornet and bee bullets that are
too long as a result.

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There should be several of the lighter bullets that are short enough, especially in the 30-35 gr weights.

I rarely ever use the buttons to post a picture. Instead I use the image code that's like this {img}http://forums.handloads.com/uploads/Josh1980/2013-01-06 _150124_rps20130106_144907.jpg{/img}, but change the braces to brackets. That works from photobucket by just copying the image code button in image links. Then it's a direct paste with nothing to add.

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Posted: January 06 2013 at 10:33pm | IP Logged Quote Josh1980

Unfortunately I'm using a "smart" phone
so some things don't wanna seem to
work right. I'll have to check out photo
bucket.

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Posted: January 07 2013 at 3:58am | IP Logged Quote Josh1980

Here's a picture of the pistol



And one of the factory crimp die I built



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Posted: January 07 2013 at 8:30am | IP Logged Quote The_Shadow

Josh this is what the code looks like for your image to complete the code...cut an paste is not placing all the characters...
http://forums.handloads.com/uploads/Josh1980/2013-01-07_0355 00_rps20130107_035339.jpg





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Ok, thanks. I'll give that a whirl next time.

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