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Posted: November 08 2016 at 4:33pm | IP Logged Quote 1187Shooter

Hello, I'm new to reloading, but getting
ready to start and have a few different
rifles that I'm going to be feeding.
I'm starting out with my Ruger Deerfield
99/44 and 303 British No.4 sporter.
Being a rotary magazine fed, gas opedated
carbine, the 99/44 is limited by cartridge
length and bullet weight, as well as
limited to jacketed bullets. I suppose
plated, powder coated or even just hard
cast would work as well, but I don't
really need to to get into that yet.
I'm also finding that it likes full power
loads, no reduced or specials unless I
want a straight pull bolt action...
So, bottom line is, I'm looking for a good
alternative to factory ammo for Deer and
Hogs. I'm hoping someone on here has had
some success with this model and cares to
share some experiences with a new guy...

At the same time, I've got this No.4 Mk.1*
with a 17" barrel that really lets you
know when you squeeze her... looking to
see if I can find a less offensive load
that doesn't convince everyone on the line
that I'm shooting some sort of super-
compact belted magnum. Are there powders
designed for shorter barrels? I'm not
necessarily looking for a reduced load,
but if that's the only way to quiet the
beast down, so be it. As long as it will
kill deer and hogs out to 150-250(ish)
yards. Past that I have the '06.



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Posted: November 08 2016 at 5:32pm | IP Logged Quote Rex

The only one I could speak to would be the '06. My old Remington 760 pump likes 150 grain Hornady SP bullets over 57.3 grains IMR 4350. It also liked 52 grains IMR 4064. Other than that I like to shoot a 94 Swedish Mauser that someone sporteried back when they could still get a Herters stock.
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Posted: November 08 2016 at 5:39pm | IP Logged Quote 1187Shooter

I saw the pics of that m94... that's a
beautiful little carbine, with some great
sentimental value to go with it. A 6.5 is
going to be my next rifle, probably a
Creedmoor, though, for the short action.

What is the twist and length of your 760
barrel? I had a really nice 760 years ago
that I was too young and dumb to
appreciate... traded it for a Beretta
92SB, which was a great little pistol but
if I knew then what I know now etc...
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I believe it is 1 in 10.
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There should be some others far smarter than me to jump in on your other questions, must be too busy watching election returns tonight.
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Posted: November 11 2016 at 6:14pm | IP Logged Quote Buffalogun

Welcome to the forum, Dan!

Being new to hand loading, you've got a lot to learn. However, it's educational and an enjoyable hobby , too.

With respect to your 99/44 keep in mind that you have a revolver cartridge that has been chambered in a rifle. And, the rifle is gas operated, to boot.

Since the .44 ReMag came to life in a revolver, the OAL(over all length) can't be longer than the revolver's cylinder or the nose of the bullet would tie up the cylinder.

You will notice that bullets made for revolvers have a crimping groove, a cannelure. The crimp groove keeps the bullets in the cases during the effects of recoil. Without the crimp groove, the bullets would creep out of the cases and tie up the cylinder.

The crimp groove also sets the OAL for the cartridge so that it fits inside the chamber properly. This means as the bullet's weight grows, it's extra length fits deeper into the case so that the cartridge's length doesn't exceed the allowable length for the cylinder. So, on the outside the OAL of a loaded 240 gr. bullet is the same as the OAL of a 300 gr. bullet.

Now, since the 99/44 is gas operated you might want to do a little research into using bullets other than jacketed bullets. The reason being that it may be possible for some of the lubricant used with cast bullets to plug up the gas port in the barrel.
There may even be problems with using powder coated and plated bullets, as well.

Besides here, a good place for you to hang out would be over on the "marlinowners.com" site. There is an "1894" forum there and the folks there are nice and very knowledgeable about running the .44 Mag in rifles.


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Posted: November 11 2016 at 10:20pm | IP Logged Quote 1187Shooter

Hi, Mike. Thanks, that's some good
information there.
I will probably stick with jacketed
bullets in this rifle. I've heard of
people having no issues with hard cast in
these, but have heard more negatives tban
positives. I don't need to take any extra
risks with a rifle that I can't find parts
for... its just not worth it.
The manual specifically states no cast
bullets, and to keep projectile weight
above 225gr. I think I may try Hornady
225gr Leverevolution bullets, just need to
figure out the powder. I suppose
Leverevolution powder may be a good place
to start... I know there is some on the
shelf at Field and Stream down the road.
I know of people using Leverevolution in
the 77/44, so hopefully it will feed in
the 99/44, as the two use the same
magazine.
Time will tell, I guess.



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Posted: December 19 2016 at 12:00pm | IP Logged Quote 1187Shooter

Ended up going with the factory 225 grain LeverEvolution
ammo for the hunting trip, the ammo performed flawlessly
in the Deerfield, fed just fine and 100 yard accuracy
was great.
Did a lot better than the Winchester 240 grain JSP's we
bought for plinking.
I don't have a Chrono so I'm not sure what the actual
numbers were, but I was happy with it. It accounted for
a couple of pigs, but no deer this time around. They
were all taken with the various 30 cals.
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