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Posted: December 22 2016 at 6:45am | IP Logged Quote REM1875

Just Got my Henry Long Ranger 223/5.56 for my wife and
I Christmas present. She is a beaut. I love it.
Only wish it had come with sights.
So I am looking at Skinner sights - anyone got any
experience or opinions on them?
We are also open to a red dot or anything that isn't a
scope?
I would like one with a permanent reticle in it that
lights up when it needs to?
I don't want to spend more on sights than I paid for
the rifle.
It did come with a weaver mounts but don't most red
dots need the rails?
Over 55 years of shooting and all I am familiar with
is iron sights, a whole new ball game for me.

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Posted: December 22 2016 at 7:43am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Don't know nuthin bout the Skinner sights.

Have a Bushnell Trophy red dot device that has replaced the scope on my .30'06. Four reticle system. Polarized detachable extension tube. 30mm tube with rings. Green and red to use in all sorts of light. For me and my "I don't need no stinkin scope." attitude it works great. Also with my being left eye dominant yet shooting right handed I can shoot with both eyes open and the dot stays dead on. Personally, I like it. Since I don't have the tools anymore and my hands "retired" on me I cannot mount iron sights onto this weapon, so the Bushnell Trophy keeps it simple yet precise. Oh well, that's my take on red dot stuff. I'm sure others will be along soon with more informative posts.

Edit: Yes, I mounted a short rail on my '06 that's about 5" long. I can mount the dot device, a full size 3X9 scope, or a little 1.25x4 long eye relief scope depending on what I want. Most dots are very short and must use a rail to fit most rifles. The rail allows options. Especially for ole "One Gun Wade."

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Posted: December 22 2016 at 9:50pm | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

I have heard nothing but glowing reports from everybody who has used Skinner sights. A strong ghost ring like that is a good option, I have a set of the XS sights on my primary hunting muzzle loader and like it a lot.

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Posted: December 24 2016 at 7:46am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Is this rifle just a barrel void of sights at all like damn near all of em now? If so, I found something on eBay that caught my eye. Flip-Up Iron Sights that mount to scope rails. They're two single sights that mount like scope rings and flip up giving you an adjustable peep sight and another on forward with an adjustable post with M-16 style "wings" to protect it. Granted it depends on the length of the rail for the sight radius but it does give a "scope only" rifle iron sights. And here's something else you might like. They sell from $15 to $175 with many sets averaging at $30 or so.

I found a set with a revolving peep having 4 different irises in it for $15.99 shipping included. I'm gonna get this set and see how it works out. I'm not clever enough to do the link thingy here but I used the search "rifle sights iron" and found these on eBay. Couldn't hurt to take a look.

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Posted: December 24 2016 at 7:59am | IP Logged Quote M700

Henry Long Ranger

There's the rifle, looks like it comes with, or without sights.

I've always liked a Williams or Lyman rear "peep" sight on my lever action rifles, though these days I do have a compact 2.5x Leupold atop my .30-30 Glenfield.





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Posted: December 24 2016 at 8:04am | IP Logged Quote REM1875

Thank You Gentlemen. I just looked at both you mentioned
and will research what you just sent Wade
It's pretapped for a set of weaver bases that came with
the gun that I am gonna have to install.
I don't like that but got no choice if I want to shoot
it, wish it came with sights mounted like th Browning
which is a mighty fine rifle too.
However it's that time of day where I am off to meditate
for a couple hours - no choice.

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Posted: December 24 2016 at 8:27am | IP Logged Quote REM1875

Dang Nabit I had no idea they made one with sights and
looks like for the same price too!!!!!!
Arrgghh Oh well after the long wait and all I been
through to get this I am grateful it's in my greasy
little paws right now.
I am aware of the Williams sights but want no extra
holes so I will check and see what I have but I do have
pretapped up top
Thanks y'all. I will check more after I get up later.

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Posted: December 24 2016 at 2:27pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

I gotta be honest here. That rifle looks totally unnatural w/o sights!
Might as well complete the act and stick a scope on it and be done with it. Or.....
Contact the famous Henry customers service unit and see if you can send that one to the factory for a sight refit...

Without a front sight mounted on the barrel a Skinner rear sight would be usless anyway. You dug yourself into a hole unless you know a good gunsmith that will drill & tap or silver solder a front sight .....

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Been following this closely.   I have a Winchester 94 that belonged to a
Mounted Police unit.   The problem, someone screwed up the rear site
somehow.   Whoever the armorer was he redialed the barrel and put the site
back on.   However, it is off center and if you use it the gun shoots left 5" at
100 yards.

Was wondering what to do with this and what other options there are.

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joed wrote:
Been following this closely.   I have a Winchester 94 that belonged to a
Mounted Police unit.   The problem, someone screwed up the rear site
somehow.   Whoever the armorer was he redialed the barrel and put the site
back on.   However, it is off center and if you use it the gun shoots left 5" at
100 yards.

Was wondering what to do with this and what other options there are.


By "redialed" I assume you mean removed and/or replaced?
You will require the barrel turned an additional 3 to 7 degrees to bring the sights to vertical. And THAT'S best left to a good gunsmith with the proper tools and training. Lord knows when I was in the business "Bubba" would attempt this with a bench vice and a pipe wrench! Then he'd come to me with a gouged up twisted wreck. Seek a skilled gunsmith or hang it on the wall.

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Old Ranger wrote:
I gotta be honest here. That rifle
looks totally unnatural w/o sights!
Might as well complete the act and stick a scope on it
and be done with it. Or.....
Contact the famous Henry customers service unit and
see if you can send that one to the factory for a
sight refit...

Without a front sight mounted on the barrel a Skinner
rear sight would be usless anyway. You dug yourself
into a hole unless you know a good gunsmith that will
drill & tap or silver solder a front sight .....



You are right on the money Wade........as usual.

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Old Ranger wrote:
joed wrote:
Been following this closely.   I have a
Winchester 94 that belonged to a
Mounted Police unit.   The problem, someone screwed up the rear site
somehow.   Whoever the armorer was he redialed the barrel and put the site
back on.   However, it is off center and if you use it the gun shoots left 5" at
100 yards.

Was wondering what to do with this and what other options there are.


By "redialed" I assume you mean removed and/or replaced?
You will require the barrel turned an additional 3 to 7 degrees to bring the
sights to vertical. And THAT'S best left to a good gunsmith with the proper
tools and training. Lord knows when I was in the business "Bubba" would
attempt this with a bench vice and a pipe wrench! Then he'd come to me with
a gouged up twisted wreck. Seek a skilled gunsmith or hang it on the wall.


"Redialed", I hate spell check.   What I was trying to say is the old holes for the
rear site have been filled in and 2 new ones drilled.   The problem is the new
holes are off center to the bore making the POI 5" to the left at 100 yds.

Do I really want to fool with or is it easier to just get one of these sites being
discussed?

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If this rifle with all the holes in it showed up on my bench I'd fill the holes. Cut a 3/8" dovetail for the rear sight and be able to install a multitude of sights. If the front was not squared with the center either I'd silver solder it in place and then the sights would be aligned correctly.

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Old Ranger wrote:
If this rifle with all the holes in it showed up on my
bench I'd fill the holes. Cut a 3/8" dovetail for the rear sight and be able to
install a multitude of sights. If the front was not squared with the center either
I'd silver solder it in place and then the sights would be aligned correctly.


As usual good advice.   Maybe that's the route to take.   The rear site is
adjustable but not enough to make up for the amount it is off.   

I'd like to find and choke whoever installed that site.

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Joed, when I was in the business and "Bubba " would show up with some badly damaged weapon he "tried to fix" it was all I could do sometimes to refrain from doing just that. He'd be charged extra for the sheer aggravation and all the extra work involved. Stupidity gets expensive.

If I still had my tools and machinery I'd mount iron sights onto my '06. Of course my hands are not as skilled as they once were either. Dad rat it! Oh well, we all grow old.

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Gentlemen do bear in mind that the height of each sight must be calculated to work with the bore's center axis in correlation to the exterior taper and shape. On most leverguns the barrel has an elongated and mild taper thus a dovetailed sight fore and aft can be employed. But like Marlins and many bolt actions the taper is more pronounced requiring a taller front sight, thus the base mounted then the sight is dovetailed in as well to the base. This occurrs in bigger cartridges and bottleneck cartridges making for a much thicker breech end of the barrel.

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Rem 1875, I'm wondering if you can just swap your rifle for one with sights. Might not be an even trade, you might have to fork out some money.

But, since Henry builds the same rifle, with sights... It seems like a logical possibility.

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