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Posted: January 02 2017 at 1:24pm | IP Logged Quote Rex

Thanks to Old Ranger I now have the two molds above. Today I put some of Mr. Keith's 173 grainers in a .38 Special case and loaded it way down to 11 grains of 2400.
I'd never loaded it down this far before and by golly it shot well and had good powder burn also.
The 357446 went into .38 special cases also over 5.5 grains Unique and also shot just fine. I was leaning back against the pickup and shooting two handed at 20 yards. Wasn't real little groups but then I can't shoot real little groups with a handgun anymore.
Too cold to set up the Chrony but the Keith bullet with 2400 slapped my hand a bit harder than the 5.5 Unique load. So many more loads to try and then 357 cases also. Hope I live long enough to get it all done.
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Posted: January 02 2017 at 2:42pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Hot dog Rex, sounds like you're having some fun up there in the frozen plains! Good!
Any leading issues at a slower velocity?

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Posted: January 02 2017 at 5:25pm | IP Logged Quote Rex

Wade, no leading to speak of as long as I keep the forcing cone area real clean. Small price to pay for so much fun.
Curious what the speed of the original factory 38/44 loads were. The Keith 173 grainer out of my 4" shooter over my chronograph with 12 grains of 2400 in a 38 Special case is around 1140 fps. I think that must be close.
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Rex, I was wondering what kind of speed you'd get with that charge.   Can't
remember what I used but I think it was 13.5 gr of 2400 in a .357 case.

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Posted: January 03 2017 at 5:14am | IP Logged Quote Rex

Joe, I'm guessing around 1000 but that is just a guess. I've checked 13 grains 2400 in a .38 special case with the 173 grain bullet before and got a bit over 1200.
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speaking of 2400 I have been trying to find some have checked every where and there is not 1 pound to be found what is up with Alliant powders I sure will miss 2400. I have an old can of Herco that has to be 50 years old that I have been loading with work ok but not like 2400. Randy
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The old Lyman manual #44 lists a max of 10.5gr of 2400 with the 429 in .38Spl cases for a grand in vel. And 11gr of 2400 or 5.4gr of Unique for the same speed with a 446 class bullet. And that was with the old Hercules powders and not the more potent Alliant offerings today. So I'm quite sure you're getting up to speed there with your loads.

The Ideal #40 manual circa 1955, lists 13.5gr of 2400 with a 446 class bullet in a .38Spl case for the .38-44 loading with 1220fps vel. Personally I believe that to be too hot for a .38Spl case and in fact it's what is used as max in .357mag cases now. It may not damage your weapon but case life of those .38Spl cases will be quite short.

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Posted: January 06 2017 at 8:55pm | IP Logged Quote LAH

My Lyman 45 if memory serves lists a 38 Special load with
the 358429 at 10.5 grains of 2400. This is a good load.
I'm with Ranger when it comes to loading 13.5 grains of
2400 in a 38 case, it is too hot for my blood in any 357
sixgun I've used.

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Personally I believe that to be too hot for a
.38Spl case and in fact it's what is used as max in
.357mag cases now.


That's my 357 load.

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