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Posted: May 16 2017 at 3:57pm | IP Logged Quote RECURVE

The print so small I can't read it ?
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Posted: May 16 2017 at 6:27pm | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

Pretty sure I have a single cavity 357446 somewhere. Bought it because it was heavy and has a relatively short nose for my 27-2 with the recessed chambers.

I've been shooting a bunch of 357443s in .38 Special lately. Dad gave me a bunch when we closed out his house and he and mom went into assisted living. Seems to be a good bullet, but the meplat is kinda small.

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Posted: May 17 2017 at 5:17am | IP Logged Quote John Van Gelder

I have used that bullet in the 9mm, there are loads in one of the very old Lyman manuals for a 158Gr. bullet, that really decreases powder capacity, they shot very nicely and functioned through the gun, but they were pretty slow.
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Posted: May 17 2017 at 7:23am | IP Logged Quote Rex

Got rained out at work today so guess I'll go out and cast some more 357446.
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Posted: May 18 2017 at 8:30am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

That's what I often do when raining. Keep it hot and pour close!

John, I've got a couple old Ideal books that are interesting. The 1953 #39 is likely my favorite. Still in the old format, its a breeze to find things. Love the section in the back that has lists of "favorite loads". And of course I cut the loads of Hercules listings by 5% due the the hotter powder produced today by Alliant.
And naturally most all the loading gear used in 1953 I still use! If it ain't broke why fix it?

One of the favorite loads for.357Mag was a 357446 with, surprise, 6gr Unique!

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Wade, I like that 6 grains of Unique to. It works real well with 13.5 2400 also.
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Posted: May 19 2017 at 5:46am | IP Logged Quote John Van Gelder

The 6 gr., of Unique has been a long time favorite for high speed .38s, with any of the bullets in the 150-170 gr., range.

I have a copy of that old manual as well, it is pretty dilapidated, I may have to make a project out of scanning it before it completely falls apart.

I too liked the section of favorite loads, the ranges and uses they were put to. That all harkens back to a simpler time.
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Posted: May 19 2017 at 6:32am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Well I'm told that my gear's out of date. For all my loading I use old 310's. The one I prefer for my .38Spl is an old plum browned steel ideal unit specifically for the .38Spl. Though not as light as the alloy model that came out later after the 310 was introduced, its got a certain "heft" to it.
But I will admit today I do much of my resizing with a '72 Lyman TC die on the old Spar-T press. That really speeds things up, and with 4 weapons I have that chambers that round, FL resizing is also smart.

But I'm old fashioned and such. Won't have a watch with a battery in it. Kinda fond of self-winders. Even my grinder dates back to 1887 and operates on a crank.

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Posted: May 19 2017 at 7:43am | IP Logged Quote Rex

I also have Ideal #39 and like it. 6 grains Unique in a .38 special case with a 150 grain 358477 gives me around 1050 fps in my 4" Smith over my chrony.
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Posted: May 27 2017 at 6:25am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Ya know, since I have an old Ideal 360271 SWC I never considered a 358477. Both are supposed to be 150gr but my alloy puts the old 360271 more around 158gr. It's absolutely stupid accurate from my favorite 38Spl single action and 2.8gr Bullseye. Though it has no crimping groove, it seats deeper and crimps over the front of the driving band. Loading much like a full wadcutter deeper in the case I'm very careful about the powder. With two lube grooves and a remarkably super thick base, this bullet just screams for a loading in a .357Mag case and slower powder. 6.5gr of Herco and this bullet are a wild combination of power and accuracy.

But my favorite solid SWC is still our bad boy, the 357446

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Posted: May 27 2017 at 10:29am | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

Went out back and shot about a hundred of those 357443s through a Model 67 using 4 grains of that Alcan 120 powder I got a bunch of for free. Shot pretty well for me shooting one handed off hand, though I'm certainly not the best pistolero out there.

I've always thought there's really nothing with more fun potential than a big bore revolver, but the not so big bores are fun too.

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Posted: May 27 2017 at 11:52am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Rich, that's an odd bullet to sure. I didn't know anyone still cast and shot it.

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Posted: May 27 2017 at 5:24pm | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

I kind of hope the mold was in my Dad's stuff, he had quite a few. I had just about standardized on the Lee 158 grain SWC because it was so easy to mass produce and seemed about as good a shooter as any to me, but he had quite a few of these cast up so there we are.

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My favorite walking around killing rocks, sticks and pine cone load is 3.5 gr. of Hodgdon Clays in a .38 spl case, with the 357446 bullet, That bullet in soft alloy weighs in at 162 grains, and over the above load gives me nearly 900 fps in my 4" GP 100. It is light enough to be a plinking load, but still has enough authority for some close in serious work, not to mention 2000 rounds from a pound of powder.

I haven't tired paper patching that bullet, the nose is shorter than the 358429, which I have had really good success at patching. The shorter nose just makes it a bit more difficult to roll the paper on, for "old fingers".
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