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REM1875
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Posted: 02 April 2017 at 1:57pm | IP Logged Quote REM1875

BAGTIC wrote:
REM1875 wrote:
I guess I worded that
wrong- the point was those who
were hit by the carbine tended to live longer than
those
hit by the 45- does that help?


Even that depends on where they hit and how often.
Would probably find that a greater percentage of
carbine hits were at longer ranges than Thompson.
Carbine was designed for aimed fire and shots were
fired singly. Thompson was designed as a close range
weapon using burst fire. Are you saying it is fair to
compare someone hit by carbine at 100 yards or more
with someone hit at 20 feet with a full burst. That is
what is wrong with comparisons based on anecdotes. One
ends up comparing proverbial apples and oranges.


My research show most fired the 'tommy' and 'grease
gun' as semi autos.
Weapons fired in Autofire- other than machine guns-
were usually the BAR or M-2. carbine.

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Posted: 02 April 2017 at 3:23pm | IP Logged Quote Paul B.

REM1875 wrote:
BAGTIC wrote:
REM1875 wrote:
I guess I
worded that
wrong- the point was those who
were hit by the carbine tended to live longer than
those
hit by the 45- does that help?


Even that depends on where they hit and how often.
Would probably find that a greater percentage of
carbine hits were at longer ranges than Thompson.
Carbine was designed for aimed fire and shots were
fired singly. Thompson was designed as a close range
weapon using burst fire. Are you saying it is fair to
compare someone hit by carbine at 100 yards or more
with someone hit at 20 feet with a full burst. That is
what is wrong with comparisons based on anecdotes. One
ends up comparing proverbial apples and oranges.


My research show most fired the 'tommy' and 'grease
gun' as semi autos.
Weapons fired in Autofire- other than machine guns-
were usually the BAR or M-2. carbine.


AFAIK, the M-3 Grease gun was full auto only. It did have a stiff trigger
and allowed one to fire single rounds with practice but any M-3 I ever
handles was technically full auto only.
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Posted: 02 April 2017 at 6:03pm | IP Logged Quote REM1875

"AFAIK, the M-3 Grease gun was full auto only. It did
have a stiff trigger and allowed one to fire single
rounds with practice but any M-3 I ever handles was
technically full auto only. Paul B."


Paul I stand corrected and thank you- while I have fired
the tommy I have never fired the M-3 or any variant of
the grease gun as they were out of service by the time I
served
Thank You
Joe

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Posted: 02 April 2017 at 10:45pm | IP Logged Quote jski

I still believe most of the anecdotes about shooting Commie soldiers in
Korea, only to watch them run away, can best be explained my misses.
I've seen too many things hit by a .30 Carbine round to know you don't
just walk away from that.

You can't stop what you don't hit.

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