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Posted: April 02 2017 at 8:02pm | IP Logged Quote STCM(SW)

I had a M431, it was just OK at best. Sold it about 5 months.
Just not a S&W..
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Posted: April 03 2017 at 6:54am | IP Logged Quote RT58

I have 5 Taurus revolvers, the 445 being the newest and worst example. Like most other gun manufacturers they have cheapened their products to get more profit to the point of no return. I've been a long time S&W fan and have more of their revolvers than all my other handguns combined, but I'll never buy a new one.

There have been several models of Bulldogs that I'd been interested in, but most dealers in the area didn't carry them and when I did see one the quality was hit and miss. If their quality is good, they may be the best deal.
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Posted: April 03 2017 at 3:13pm | IP Logged Quote joed

I actually thought that M431 was a S&W. That 445 was a great gun, I
actually think the former owner had the action done on it.   

Every Taurus I ever handled felt like there was sand in the action, not
so on the 445 I owned.

The 6 gun was once as common as the cellphone is today, and just as annoying when it went off in the theater.
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Posted: May 03 2017 at 4:29am | IP Logged Quote Florida Shooter

I have a Taurus 431, a later edition one with a rounded
butt and a 2.5 in. bbl. ... it looked just like the pix
posted here

it was a big chunk of steel to haul around, especially for
its full load of only 5 shots. I replaced it as a carry
piece long ago, and now I carry a 9 mm Ruger LC9 Pro, and
occasionally a Seecamp .32
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Posted: May 03 2017 at 10:12am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

QC on many levels these days have suffered some. Many brands that were once the top of the line now have issues with their weapons.

Though the new made Uberti weapons I own and those I've inspected are top drawer. Same for the EAA SAA .44mag. Tight and precise. Well made piece of German engineering.

Same thing in the world of guitars. Gibson, a top American company with a reputation for great instruments is now producing poorly built gear. However. China is making the same instruments better, cheaper, and little or no issues at all. U.S. made has lost its luster.

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Posted: May 08 2017 at 8:53am | IP Logged Quote REM1875

Old Ranger
I just got in trouble with those tight Umberti Cimarron
Arms tolerances in 38-40.
Rounds that fit in my Colt New Service easily I found
would not fit in my Umberti Colt SAA (about 20 years
old), and by just a tiny fraction of an inch. I will
have to do something about that.


"If it killed em a 150 years ago, it kill em today" (answer to a comment about black powder weapons)
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