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Posted: April 02 2017 at 8:50am | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

Two were Remington Core Lokts bulk purchased from Midway years ago in a .35 Remington. Most recent was a 200 grain flat nose I cast from a .358 Winchester, probably pretty close to the same velocity.

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Well, let's discuss twist rates for the.35 Whelen. Ruger and Remington
use the 1 in 16". Big mistake. My custom Mauser runs with a 1 in 14"
twist and many feel the 1 in 12" twist should be the proper one. FWIW,
I know of several people who built customs using a 1 in 10" twist and a
good friend of mine uses his rebarreled Ruger #1 with the 1 in 10". He
calls it his favorite moose gun.

A bullet that has worked extremely well for me in the 225 gr. Barnes
TSX. I get 2510 FPS from my Mauser but the load dis too hot for there
M700 Classic. I think it should not be a problem to get at least 2600+
FPS with Re15 and the TSX bullet and frankly, I would have no
problem using that load on any game in the continental U.S. and most
of African game as well. Some guns don't like that bullet but the 225
gr. Nosler Accubond and Partions are worthy stand ins.

The only time the Whelen has failed me is during a Kaibab National
Forest hunt in Northern Arizona I got a crack at the biggest racked
Mule deer I've ever seen. Easy broadside shot. The problem is there
was about a half dozen does behind him and if I'd shot I'd have
probably killed at least two does. Arizona Game & Fish frown on such
antics. I waited for a shot but he spooked and was gone. Spent the
rest of the week trying to get another chance but not luck. Even a
standard cup and core would have punched through and gotten at
least one doe.
Tags for the Kaibab are very hard to draw. It's been more that seven
years and I have not drawn another tag for that hunt.

I've done a little work with the Lyman #3589 (old mold before Lyman
changed it to #358009 to make their computer happy. So far results
have been disappointing. I also have a custom mold by David Mos that
is a clone of the #358009 but with a slight flat me plat on the nose of
the bullet. So far it too hasn't shot all that well. Oh well.
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Posted: April 03 2017 at 10:59am | IP Logged Quote KinleyWater

I make no claims of understanding all the internal dynamics of what makes various twist rates work. I know a few of the concepts and I have read some first-hand accounts (for what they are worth). Perhaps the 1:10 is the ideal rate; it sort of makes sense to me if you have long bullets at more moderate speeds. If I had followed my original plan and purchased a 30-06 for re-bore, it would have been a 1:14 or 1:12 per the smith's recommendation. As it happens, I chanced on this Rem for a decent price and struck.

I have never shot a TS-anything, but have been long intrigued by the all copper HP concept. In reading the Lyman 50th manual, I see it shows the 225 TSX at 2519 from a 24 inch 1:16 tube, using 58.5 grains (compressed) of Re15. Assuming a loss of about 70fps from my 22 inch tube, I think that would still be more than adequate for anything I want to shoot with it, to any range I would feel comfortable shooting it (plus a little).

As for Arizona - I can empathize, but it's also nice to know integrity still lives.

I think as far as cast bullets it concerned; I would like to experiment with handgun reloading before I make the leap into rifle. It's probably more of a psychological thing, but I want to try all my new things on straight walled revolver cartridges at much lower velocities and pressures (.44 Special) before I move to rifle cartridges. Maybe there's no need, but it makes me more comfortable.

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Posted: April 03 2017 at 3:24pm | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

The beauty of a .35 is any bullet designed for the .38 Special or .357 Magnum will work for plinking loads. Get some lead 158 grain round nosed of SWCs and load nine to ten grains of Unique and have a ball at the range. Nice to shoot something that's cheap and doesn't punish you.

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Posted: April 04 2017 at 2:36pm | IP Logged Quote KinleyWater

Well, that would certainly make an interesting thing to toy with... Now, if I could only get a rifle I could do that with for my stock of .44 mag bullets

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KinleyWater wrote:
Well, that would certainly make an interesting thing to toy with... Now, if I could only get a rifle I could do that with for my stock of .44 mag bullets


Inline muzzle loader. Lots of them out there dirt cheap after hunting season and the sabots for .44 bullets in a .50 are cheap.

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