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Posted: April 29 2017 at 7:20am | IP Logged
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cpg,
A couple of questions:
When you size your cases are you running the cases completely up into the sizing die until the shellholder touches the bottom of the die?
What case lube are you using?
Mike
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cpg Senior Member
  
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Yes, die is set and shell holder touches slightly before full stroke.
I've been using the Lee paste lube but bought a can of Hornady one
shot spray that I haven't tried yet.
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i like using the hornady wax there is 2 kinds a red and
a clear but its easy to use too much when im doing a lot
of 556 i will put a dry case in to clean out the die of
excess wax
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Posted: May 05 2017 at 8:57pm | IP Logged
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I use the Lee case sizing lube in the white tube. I
decap and clean. Then lube and dry overnight before full
length sizing. Using this process I have never had any
problems. The size, neck and all, is on spec and the
press runs very smoothly.
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cpg wrote:
I've been using the Lee paste lube but bought a can of Hornady one
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Be certain to shake the Hornady One Shot really well each time you use it in order to prevent a stuck case. I have used it and it works great, but it must be agitated each and every time before you spray your brass or you end up with spray that looks wet, but lacks enough lubricant to prevent cases from sticking.
I know of several handloaders that have gotten stuck cases using One Shot. All because of failure to mix the lubricant before spraying.
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Ham Gunner wrote:
cpg wrote:
I've been using the Lee paste lube but bought a can of Hornady one
shot spray that I haven't tried yet. |
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Be certain to shake the Hornady One Shot really well each time you use it in order to prevent a stuck case. I have used it and it works great, but it must be agitated each and every time before you spray your brass or you end up with spray that looks wet, but lacks enough lubricant to prevent cases from sticking.
I know of several handloaders that have gotten stuck cases using One Shot. All because of failure to mix the lubricant before spraying. |
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Good advise! Thanks for passing on, I would have never known.
Chris
Edited by cpg on May 07 2017 at 10:27am
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Finally got out to the range this morning. A crushed hand kept me from doing much these past few weeks, still have no feeling in my trigger finger.
Anyway, shot the loose neck cartridges (single shot, nothing went in the tube mag) and was surprised to find accuracy was not terrible. Fist (ish) sized groups at 25 yards, but landing to the right of aim. I think I'll drift the front sight a little and see if I can put them center mass next time. Sure is fun shooting these lite loads!
Going to keep these cases separate and see if I can find out why there was little tension when I loaded them. Hopefully it was user error.
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Sad about your hand & finger!
Looks like you're shooting well, just need to move one of the sights a bit. You prefer moving the front for windage?
Guy
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M700 wrote:
You prefer moving the front for windage?
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I'm guessing your asking for a reason? I'm ignorant about these sights, just assumed the front would be easier to move a little. Better way? I'm all ears!!
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cpg,
Most folks drift the rear sight in the direction the POI needs to go.
Mike
Edited by Buffalogun on June 26 2017 at 5:36am
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I certainly prefer to have my front sight centered in the dove tail. It really would not matter, but it just looks better and is likely easier to center the sights with the eye if the front sight is centered along with the barrel for quick pointing/sighting. I think the eye can more quickly adjust to a slightly off centered rear sight.
I have a Remington US Model of the 1917 Enfield and those rifles did not have windage adjustable rear sights. Apparently my rifle did not get the barrel fitted on with the dove tail centered at top bore. It requires the front sight being drifted to the left way too far. It looks a bit goofy.
It seems to have proper headspace, but I suppose I could have the barrel removed and the centering corrected and the headspace reamed back to spec. Likely would not hurt a thing to have a slightly freshened up throat in the process.
It shoots just fine, but it certainly does look a bit odd with the front blade drifted so much closer to the left dog ear of the front sight protector.
Edited by Ham Gunner on June 26 2017 at 12:25pm
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Buffalogun wrote:
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Most folks drift the rear sight in the direction the POI needs to go.
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Yup. That's the usual method, and why I asked.
Regards, Guy
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Problem pretty much covered, but just a couple thoughts. I keep
a jug of my "soak" on my bench (mineral spirits, kroil and ATF or
Marvel's Mystery Oil) and drop my dies in and allow to soak.
Overnight soaking or when I remember to take them out, and a
quick drain and wipe down keeps the crud from building up.
When I start a reloading session, I check all critical dimensions
regardless if the dies are previously "adjusted correctly". And
lastly, I'd use a larger diameter bullet, .310" works well in my 30-
30...
I would prolly pull those loose loads and recheck the sizing
die...
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Posted: June 27 2017 at 12:39pm | IP Logged
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Thanks all!
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cpg,
We wouldn't lead you in the wrong direction.
Please keep us informed on the loose neck fit that you are working to solve. I think most of us are a bit baffled at what you are experiencing.
Mike
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Glad I mentioned it and you all picked up on my possible mistake.
Once I get past some bus time around here, I'm going to take those
cases and try loading them again and pay more attention. Good thing I
have quick change bushings on my dies.
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