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Kirk357
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Posted: May 06 2017 at 6:32am | IP Logged Quote Kirk357

RT58 - I have found that to be true, I'm dipping not scooping and
I've noticed I consistently get a weight that's a little less than what
Lee says I should get - but it is consistent - so it works. Plus I
confirm with the scale.

With the little hand press I'm using I can sit outside for decapping,
sizing, priming, and crimping... which I am enjoying... but I can see a
bigger better press in my future!

Thanks again for all the help.

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Posted: May 08 2017 at 7:46am | IP Logged Quote RT58

I've used Lees "knucklebuster" and their comparable "C" press when I was loading at work, they are handy, but they aren't quite as good as most other presses. They have a lot of flex and no "cam-over" which can affect consistency.

I forgot to mention that Ideal was taken over by Lyman a long time ago so if you see a #55 powder measure with the Lyman name it's the same thing. They are better than most measures if you need very small charges of powder.

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Posted: May 08 2017 at 8:12am | IP Logged Quote Kirk357

Can you explain what you mean by "a lot of flex" and no "cam-over"
in terms of how that might effect my reloading. Is there something I
need to adjust for or be aware of. So far it has seemed to work okay
for me. Of course I'm just loading 38 special and 357 magnum.

Thanks for the helo!
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Posted: May 08 2017 at 12:24pm | IP Logged Quote RT58

For your purposes they won't make a lot of difference. If you ever get into reloading bottleneck rifle cartridges then they might.

Flex is related to the rigidity of the press, both the frame design and the linkage, and they are not very solid. Cam-over is when you lower your press handle and at the bottom of the stroke it reaches a point where it is locked into place. If you lower your handle and push down on the ram it will raise the handle back up, presses that have a cam-over won't do that.

The idea is to have the dies do the exact same thing every time you use them. If the resistance varies and there is a lot of play, they won't.
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My pet loads for the .38 Spl. are 3.1 gr. of W231 and a 148 gr. Cast
wadcutter. It's a ball powder but no need for a magnum primer. For a
158 gr. cast semi-wadcutter, I like 5.0 gr. of Unique
I like 5.0 gr. of Unique and a158 gr. cast SWC for a plinking load in the
.357 Mag. and 14.0 gr. of Alliant #2400 with he same bullet for a full
power load. The original 2400 load and 158 gr. bullet was 15.5 gr. but
the load was reduce a while back. Never was a problem in my S&W
M28.
Seems about that same time .357 Magnum and .44 Magnum factory
loads were also reduced. The reasoning I've heard was full power
loads in 57 were damaging throats on the S&W M19/66 "K" frame
guns. Not sure why Elmer's load was reduced by two full grains but his
load would tear hell out of my S&W 629. It went back to the factory
twice being messed up even with the 20.0 gr. 2400 load and Elmer's
bullet. The gun is in semi-retirement. I use Ruger Redhawks these
days for full power .44 Mag. loads. Frankly, I never tried for a close to
full power load in the .357 with Unique, much preferring 2400 for that
purpose.
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Posted: May 13 2017 at 4:05pm | IP Logged Quote Kirk357

What would you consider a full power load for the 357 magnum with
Unique?

The Alliant site shows
1.) 6 grains for a 158 grain lswc
2.) 9.6 for a 125 grain GDHP

I have 158 grain lswc and 125 grain JSPs. Are the JSP similar/same
as GDHP?



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