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Posted: June 05 2017 at 9:59pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Yup, saw that they got that brass on a closeout sale. Gotta wait a week or so for the little bling that social security graces me with. My luck when I get it the cases will be sold out.

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Posted: June 07 2017 at 5:25am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Nevermind. Already sold out last night. Oh well....
I'll find more cases in time. I'm not going anywhere and a deal will come along. I have patience.
Meanwhile, I've got plenty of stuff to do to keep me busy. Lots of.38Spl cases to prep and load. More casting of 358665's and such. No sittin' around here. Besides, I got me a hankerin' to go shoot my M92 this morning and test that bullet with the LLA in that 20" barrel. Always something to do.

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Posted: June 13 2017 at 6:33pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Between the 200gr RNFP ACME round and the 200gr RNFP Lee bullet I'm casting provides two excellent options for loading the 45Colt. The nose is like a big flat disc atop a substantial piece of lead. Very accurate as well. The ACME Bullet Co's 200gr RNFP is smooth and flawless in operation and accuracy is quite good. Working with Unique and Red Dot thus far has proven to be good choices. Will see what Win. 231 will do shortly.

Loading this cartridge with smokeless powder is taking a bit of getting used to. I have always used black powder before. But I will admit that its a lot cleaner!

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Posted: June 13 2017 at 7:32pm | IP Logged Quote John P.

Good luck with that fine looking .45 Colt SAA.

As much as I like W231 in 9mm and .38 Special, I seem to do better
with Unique in .44 Special, mid-range .44 Magnum, and .45 Colt.   In
.45 Colt I usually use a cast 250 grain RNFP with 9 grains of Unique
with good results in a Ruger Bisley.   I have tried W231, but seemed to
get less accuracy and more leading. Let us know how those W231
loads do for you.

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Posted: June 13 2017 at 8:39pm | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

In my experience, Unique and Red Dot are a match made in heaven with the .45 Colt. Bullseye is nice for loads with 200 grain bullets too.

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Posted: June 13 2017 at 9:48pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Thanks for the information. 8.5gr Unique and 6gr of Red Dot both really worked well with the 200gr RNFP. Like with John, W231 is fine with some 38Spl but I didn't get great results with it in the 44mag. Only exception was 7gr with the 240gr plated flat points from Berry's. Those were cloverleaf shooters in the EAA Bounty Hunter SAA 44mag. Please note that load was actually the result of a study I did last year for that one weapon and it took months to find. With the slightly larger case yet not as strong, I may not pursue the W231 use due to it's hotter burning characteristics with a cast bullet as opposed to plated.

Again, Unique has been a staple in my approach to many loads over the years with an exemplary record of successful results. With this in mind I'm reminded about not fixing something that isn't broken. Then again I am reminded also of the horrible failure of W231 and 158gr RNFP in the.38Spl's I loaded last year. 3.7gr 231 with the 158gr RNFP was a disastrous mistake that lead plated every weapon I had that shot it. I nearly took the 2nd pound of it and scattered it to the winds! It was then that I realized I may need to restrict 231 to jacketed or plated rounds, avoiding cast bullets all together.

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I can't deny I like Unique as a testing- start and
often final powder.
I been running 12 gr unique in 30-30 with 110 and
125gr last week with great result in a pump and I love
it ( yes I know rifle load in the pistol forum but
"pistol" powder) ..........(might be near max- not
that is showed any signs)

And yes Win 231 seems to have applications in 38 and
smaller autos for me. Not listed as a favorite.

I got a hell of a deal on Red Dot so it has been doing
the lion share of my 45 ACP I got two barrel bulges
using it in Semi- auto carbine so I ain't real happy-
whether it was the new dillion press or powder I am
unsure but...... And I never heard or felt a single
thing that would have suggested they were squib loads
.....The evidence in the barrel and brass is
overwhelming proof it happened and they were two
separate incidences months apart. (Pretty heavy
carbine as far as weight may have dampened the
incidents)

I am looking at Western powders. And still have some
Accurate that I use often for certain applications.

I saw a new brand (I guess) and a few new powders but
I still have stuff from the early 90s I need to use
up, plus new powder means new manual. I always try and
get new manuals but at my own speed not so I can use
some powder I just got.

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Posted: June 14 2017 at 4:08pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Yup, me and Unique been amigos bout as long as when I started loading with that newfangled smokeless powder! And as to cast rounds in a rifle and Unique? Guilty! Love it in my '06 and cast stuff. You ain't alone there.

Right after the hoarders eased up on grabbing every pound of powder they could lay their greedy little meat hooks on, some powders started to appear. Sorta like young doe easing out into the meadow at first light. In that time none of the IMR powders or Alliant were around. But AA#5 and W231 were. And some of that foreign stuff with a "V" somethin-er-other too. I shied away from that and tried the AA stuff. Not impressed. And the fiasco of the 158's and W231 leading all my 38's is still fresh in my mind. So if you want to piddle around with those "other" powders, have at it. Bout once a month or so I buy a pound of Unique, Red Dot, Blue Dot, or Bullseye. Just one of them, not one each! Can't afford to. Just a pound of one of them. I don't have the massive stockpile of powder like some. Just enough to keep me going. But I'll tell ya, ive no desire to have a bunch of different types of powder here. Just the standard basic stuff. I choose to keep it simple.

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Posted: June 14 2017 at 4:16pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

As to your barrel buldges, I'd look at that automated contraption and not the powder. Don't trust those progressive presses any further than I can pick up and heave an ivory piano! Powder don't squib itself. Its the behavior of the measure and press system of progressive rigs. Can't hardly blame the powder anymore than a cow for having some fat in it's muscle. Its the butcher's responsibility for trimming it, not the cow.


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Posted: June 14 2017 at 4:22pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

And I found 100 new .45Colt brass by Remington. Cost some but I got em anyway. One can never have enough loaded in case the space invaders or the revenues come to raid the still! That's hillbilly logic there! !

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Old Ranger wrote:
the revenues come to raid the still!
!


Can't stand them revenuers.

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Them Revenuers are now called ATF agents and they are
more likely looking for something else besides your
still.........

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Posted: June 15 2017 at 6:56am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Well I sat down last night and prep'ed those hundred Remington cases. Now to pick a load. Hum.... Maybe something with Unique. That'll be original. Ha!
Actually, with the 200gr rounds I have thus far I've not gone beyond 8.5gr of Unique. Though it can go a little bit more I don't think I'll push it. I am the sort that doesn't get all giddy with loads at the upper threshold of sensibility. No, I believe that I'll leave well enough alone and load as I've been doing. The ACME 200gr RNFP is doing well with 8.5gr as is my super wide nosed cast round. Nope, I believe that I'll leave it just as it is. Well of course 6gr of Red Dot was pretty good too.... Aw shucks, reckon I'll load a little of both.

Gotta tell you guys, loading the 45Colt with smokeless powder is fun. Using the Lee Carbide dies is working out ok with my old Spar-T press. I feel all modern with this. Why I'm even using an old Lee hand held priming tool too. Found that the same shell holder used with a.45-70 works for the 45Colt cases as well. Yup, its all pretty uptown here. But next month, when the retirement check hits the bank, I'm ordering a set of Lyman 310 dies for the 45Colt. I think that I'll feel more comfortable with a 310, but contrary to my first loading I'll stick with this newfangled smokeless powder!

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