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Posted: June 07 2017 at 4:28pm | IP Logged Quote M700

Alaska and the grizzly hunt behind me, I cleaned my rifle, stowed it away, put the remaining 30-06 ammo away, along with the dies I'd left out before I left.

Dusted off and lightly lubed my Lyman turret press, and started loading .45 ACP practice ammo! Yahoo! Fun stuff.



Hope to have a few hundred of them loaded soon. Love shooting my .45 1911!

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Yup, with a.45 that for some reason they always appear to be hungry... Feed the need!

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Looking good there Guy! Enjoy!

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Posted: June 08 2017 at 4:19pm | IP Logged Quote LAH

Loading for the bulk shooter is always fun.

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Posted: June 08 2017 at 4:23pm | IP Logged Quote LAH

Which direction do you turn the turret?


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Posted: June 10 2017 at 2:03pm | IP Logged Quote M700

LAH wrote:
Which direction do you turn the turret?


Whichever way you'd like!

It's just a turret press, not a progressive. I keep mine set up with a set of .44 dies, and a set of .45 ACP dies.

I turn the turret clockwise:

Station 1 is the decapping & resizing die
Station 2 is flares the case mouth
Station 3 seats the bullet and applies the crimp

I just do everything in batches of 50 rounds. All 50 through one die, then on to the next, etc.

Not sure why it's considerably faster than working with my RCBS Rockchucker, but it is, although it's just a single stage press.

I've never tried the Lyman for rifle cartridges, just handgun. The previous owner did use it for rifle cartridges as well and said it did a fine job, even on big Weatherby magnums.

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Posted: June 25 2017 at 7:06pm | IP Logged Quote LAH

In the past I loaded on a Lyman All American. I began by
turning the turret clockwise [looking from above] but
after several years switched directions. Either way I
seldom broke 150 per hour.




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Posted: June 26 2017 at 3:06pm | IP Logged Quote M700

That's a darned good production rate from a press that's not quite a "progressive" - just a good turret press.

I sure like mine for handgun cartridges. Probably ought to try it for some rifle loading too someday, but I do like just leaving it set for .44 & .45 loading and not having to mess with a thing.

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Posted: June 26 2017 at 7:39pm | IP Logged Quote LAH

This was my first press from 1973. I began loading 38/357.
I later added 44 Spec/Mag & 45 Colt. In 1990 I purchased a
M-29 S&W & my first Dillon. Before that all my sixgun ammo
was loaded on the All American. The 150 rounds I could do
if I didn't stop for anything. The Dillon is certainly
easier.

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That's a respectable count from a turret press.   I'm down to 2 now, a
rock chucker and a Dillon 650.    Sold the 1050, it was to good at
making ammo. I don't think I can shoot all the .44 and .45 in my
lifetime that I made on it.



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The paint job on that press is sweet!


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I have a Lee turret press.
Never set it up, still use my Rock Chucker I got in 1972.
Every thing from 32 S&W to 416 WBY magnum....

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Posted: July 02 2017 at 10:21am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Been using a Lyman Spar-T press for well over 55 years. I do not rotate the turret for every stage of loading with a single case. It's not designed for that activity, and doing so causes premature wear on the bearings and the races cut in the press. Lyman suggested to process the cases by stages just like a single stage press and not rotate continuously. The idea behind the turret press was to have the 3 dies used for pistol cartridges all in the press to relieve the need to change out dies for every stage as one does in a single stage press.

Ages ago I was advised by an engineer at Lyman not to attempt to treat the turret press as a "manual operation progressive" since they were not made for that and would lead to poor indexing of the turret if treated as such. In short, the press would become so worn that it would because useless.

As stated earlier, I don't rotate continuously and yet after decades of single stage-like use with rotation only to proceed to the next stage, my press requires adjustments to the turret indexing about every six months or so.

The new Lyman turret press is larger and stronger than it's ancestor but it's built on the same principle. It is susceptible to the same effects. The Lee turret press I have no data on and have never used one, thus I cannot comment on. Anything I say on them would be speculation without fact.

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Posted: July 02 2017 at 10:33am | IP Logged Quote LAH

That's very interesting Ranger. My All American was
always used to completely load a case before removing it
from the shell holder. Round & round she goes. Never had
to replace the ball or turret. I do grease the ball &
track. There is nothing on mine to adjust unless I'm over
looking something?

Quote:
Lyman suggested to process the cases by stages
just like a single stage press and not rotate
continuously.


I purchased this press just before I learned the
importance of reading instructions.

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Posted: July 02 2017 at 2:32pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Lynn, the AA press predates the Spartan series of presses. They [the AA series] were very heavy and bulky and Lyman streamlined things to create the Spartan "C" press and the Spar-T turret press. Though made of great iron alloy they were lighter and stronger. The only drawback was smaller internal parts in the Spar-T.

Back when people still wrote letters, I was wondering how stout the turret press was compared to the Spartan C press I had started with in '60. An engineer at Lyman stated that the turret press was not designed for continuous rotation, and the turret was established as a convenient way to hold two sets of pistol dies or a single set of 3 with an adaptor for the #55 powder scale. As I remember his remarks about the Spar-T turret was to rotate gently and never attempt to work large magnum rifle cases or ever attempt any case forming. The concept was to give pistol guys a fast way to get to the next die and not have to take the time to change em out on a C press.

Like many folks from the AA press days, rotating the turret was easier given the rather clumsy shell holder used with them. And the 4 holes made it easy to have the #55 measure in the mix to load one complete round at a time ala a manual operation progressive of sorts. The AA presses were made from older formulated iron alloy containing far greater raw iron than the later models that followed. In short, they were STOUT, bulky, and heavy. Reloaders of the time wanted lighter, smaller footprint on the bench, and more holes in the turret.
Lynn, I doubt that you've damaged your old press any. It's a beast next to it's offspring!

You would chuckle at my pistol cartridge loading technique. Size & decap with a T/C die on the Spar-T turret press. Bell cases with a 310. Seat primers with a 1st generation Lee auto priming tool. Drop powder with a 1903 era Ideal No.5 powder measure. And seat with the 310 tool and dies. And the only reason I use the T/C sizer in the Spar-T is to full length resize due to multiple weapons in .38 cal. And F/L resize for 45ACP. Otherwise it's all done with the 310 mostly. Aside from priming with a 310, its as fast as a press when ya know what you're doing and have everything laid out to use. Start to stop I usually do a box of 50 45ACP in 25 minutes with the above system. Little longer if I use the 310 sizing dies as I have to wipe the sizing wax from the cases. That's time consuming. Ups it to around 35 to 40 minutes that way. Things around the Old Ranger's house is still back in the 50's and 60's mostly.
We mosey and don't get in a hurry.

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A Dillon Square Deal B is affordable. Life is too short to go through hell to load your main pistol ammo.
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Posted: July 02 2017 at 10:24pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

An Ideal or Lyman 310 is far from going through hell to load. I regularly load pistol rounds that provide clusters and at times, cloverleaf patterns with stock single actions from my 310's. Same with the '06.

Oh I had a progressive once. After 3 major failures with part breakage, I helped it out by smashing it to bits and tossed it to the curb.



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Posted: July 03 2017 at 7:24am | IP Logged Quote LAH

Old Ranger wrote:
We mosey and don't get in a hurry.


Nothing wrong with that.

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