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Posted: June 24 2017 at 4:38am | IP Logged Quote REM1875

I realise it has been out awhile since the first reviews
on here last year - just curious if it is a 'must have'
powder and what any of y'all have found it useful for?


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Posted: June 24 2017 at 7:27am | IP Logged Quote LAH

That's one I haven't tried.

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Posted: June 26 2017 at 12:15am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Never even heard of it. How's that for living under a rock?

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Posted: June 27 2017 at 7:44am | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

I just glanced at the Win/Hodgen web site and there is data and information if you can just figure out how to get around in their site. I couldn't and used to create web sites.    good luck. Craig

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Posted: June 27 2017 at 9:08am | IP Logged Quote RT58

I went to their site to download a copy of their free basic manual to check out 572 against other powders in various calibers. Well, it isn't free anymore. You can use their on-line load data generator, or buy their "annual manual", which I quit buying a long time ago. Or buy for the "basic manual".

I find myself getting away from Hodgdon, (which includes Imr and Winchester), more and more as it seems like all they care about is the money.
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Posted: June 27 2017 at 9:19am | IP Logged Quote REM1875

Since Hodgdon finally admitted th truth about certain
powders I think it's time to consolidate some of the
lot...... if x and y are the same powder let's just pick
one and drop the other name.

Perhaps it's time to just pick just one brand name and
place all the consolidated powder under one name?

Winchester while and old and trusted brand is no longer
the same and maybe it is one of those that needs to go
away........

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Posted: June 27 2017 at 1:31pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Why do you think I'm consolidating loads (and castings)?
Far too many items of choice produces far too many results. My last few years in police work was crime analysis. I studied trends and patterns that lead to arrests and the reduction of crime. That was the desired result. One seeks the oft repeated actions to identify the prime suspect. Same in reloading. Isolate the most common and consistent load associated with the tightest groups and best bullet performance. Then eliminate all those that are substandard.

Applying the above mentioned techniques to my loading system, I have eliminated roughly 75% powder waste by using far fewer types. Further, currently the number of cast projectiles has been reduced by 88%, with the potential for even greater reduction after future testing. Primers are far simpler if one factors in the current supplier locally sells only one brand. That's a no-brainer.

Based upon decades of shooting notes containing data of loads, weapons, climatic conditions, and more I had all the data requirements for a complete and detailed study to eliminate unnecessary components and loads.
Certainly I enjoyed "the chase" for a perfect load but that's really impossible if one continues in constantly changing components. Added to the issue is the hype from the manufacturers and of course, ourselves on the net telling of the latest and greatest stuff. How on earth can you be consistent with all that data crammed down your throat?


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Posted: June 27 2017 at 2:16pm | IP Logged Quote REM1875

Dang
No wonder we call ya old Wade
Where you sense of adventure and your wallet (I mean
besides firmly in your pants)
They are wasting good advertising dollars on you
I admit being a decade or so younger than you allows
me to run wild and foolish- maybe I will grow up (if I
am allowed to keep growing older)
I'll save this sage and good advice just in case I do
grow up

P.S. As usual I am just asking hoping one of y'all
will waste your time and money and then get back to me


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Posted: June 27 2017 at 3:24pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Sorry, didn't mean to preach.

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Posted: June 27 2017 at 3:38pm | IP Logged Quote REM1875

You weren't-- you were passing on your experience and
observations which are pretty solid and sage advice.
There is a lot of value in what you say Wade - I wish
I could narrow it down sometimes.

I like shooting and loading for a lot of different
things - like a shotgun pattern
You are more focused - like a scoped rifle shot
Good thing about reloading there is room for both
types here

I was just jerking your chain- yeah bright shiny and
new item attract my attention - I am like an old crow.


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The problem is right now we have 572, Unequal, Universal, CFE Pistol, Auto
Comp, BE86, Power Pistol, Silhouette/Winchester Action Pistol, N330, N340,
True Blue, and Sport Pistol all in the niche that was previously quite well
covered by Unique, HS6, and Herco (and SR7625 and SR4756). Why,
reloaders should be happy as can be for the wealth of powders they can't find.
This is now a VERY crowded little niche and, so far, the only outstanding
powders in my guns have been Silhouette for almost all applications and Power
Pistol specifically for 9x19 applications.

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I've run 572 in the 9mm, 357 sig, 40, 10mm and 45 super. Its a good powder, I like it better than longshot, but it hasn't swayed me away from power pistol yet. It works well in the straight walled cartridges with smooth linear velocity gains but got a bit unstable in the bottle necked sig when pushing the limits.

In testing the limits with the 9mm i got a 158gr cast swc to 1300fps and a 180gr cast wfn to 1130fps from a 6.6" barreled glock 17l with a compensator.
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I like it a lot. It works great in 9mm, .38 Super, .45ACP, .44 Special .44Mag, and it even works
good for my 28ga. shotgun loads. I could literally use this one powder for everything I load....but then...what fun would that be??

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Posted: July 12 2017 at 7:16am | IP Logged Quote RT58

My first question with it being from the Winchester/IMR/Hodgdon family is, "what other name does it go by?"

Second is, "What other powder is it based on?"
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