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Posted: August 20 2017 at 3:28pm | IP Logged Quote REM1875

Hey Wade
if ya ain't familiar with the sawzall be damned careful
- they can get away from ya right quick and will go
through flesh and bone even faster that lead.....Be
damned careful......

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Posted: August 20 2017 at 6:58pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Joe, I ain't gonna be cuttin up nuthin! That big 'ole plate of lead can just sit there. I'm gonna buy 'em from now on. Doing the math, the copper plated bullets are equal to, and sometimes less, than cast rounds.

My source of cast bullets is ACME Bullets. Super nice folks. Good products, always in stock. And they do painted bullets too if ya like them. But again super great customer service and I will continue to use their products.

And the copper plated bullets are limited in design, but shoot clean and are really accurate. They're the only thing I can shoot in my 44 as every cast round so far leads it up.

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Posted: August 20 2017 at 8:54pm | IP Logged Quote REM1875

Thanks for the info on Acme Bullets, Wade - already had
them bookmarked but positive feedback sure helps
Joe

http://acmebullet.com

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Posted: August 21 2017 at 6:13am | IP Logged Quote REM1875

Hey OLD RANGER

Just curious but have ya thought about hanging that
chunk of lead as a target or back stop?
Could be interesting .....might also cut it down to size
sooner or later......maybe not in our life time

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Posted: August 21 2017 at 6:27am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Well frankly, no. Haven't entertained that idea. There might exist an issue of cross contamination of different alloy bullets becoming embedded in the softer lead. The horrors!

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Posted: August 21 2017 at 6:34am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Ya know, the warning on the saw is valid though. While back I was ripping a piece of lumber with a circular saw. The vibration caused my right hand to loose it's grip and it wasn't a good experience. I didn't get hurt, but it was close. That little stroke did a number on me. I deal with power tools differently now as a result.

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Posted: August 22 2017 at 9:07pm | IP Logged Quote Slick

I know you said "no Skillsaw" in your first post...

I'd have never tried it or thought it up, but many years ago I need to cut several large aluminum billets. A person (whose knowledge I respect) told me to get a carbide-tipped blade for my circular saw and use it on the aluminum.

It worked GREAT, as in better than I would have imagined. It was fast, easy and simple. The only down-side was that it made LOTS of very sharp clips that needed to be cleaned up. When cutting lead, those chips aren't really sharp (dangerous), but do represent more lead than I care to "throw away".

So now if I want to cut lead using the Skillsaw method, I try to set up the cut inside of an old cardboard box as a means to capture all those chips..

My alternative method is to use a torch and wear a respirator. It really depends on how much I need to cut as to what cutting method I use.

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Posted: August 24 2017 at 12:26pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

I have pretty much quit casting now...
And I sure AIN'T gonna be using a Skilsaw!
Slick, you worry me at times.

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Posted: August 24 2017 at 2:05pm | IP Logged Quote dahlin

Ranger maybe you could start another hobby and start casting fishing jigs no leading there. You could put that chunk of lead up on a block of wood and melt it into your furnace with a Pro-Pain torch, and then go catch some cat fish Randy
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Posted: August 24 2017 at 2:49pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Or..... I can hang that big ole plate of lead out on my range and go bang my head against it every time I shoot left, or low-left with my handguns. As piss-poor as I shoot it will be split into pieces from the constant impact in just a few months.

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Posted: September 05 2017 at 3:56am | IP Logged Quote noylj

Cost of casting:
I can't get cheap lead any more.
A couple of years ago I looked at the cost of buying the alloy. At that time, The
alloy cost as much as buying already cast, sized, and lubed 200gn L-SWCs.
Now, I think the commercial bullets are about 2X the cost of the alloy.
I can't see cutting with a saw, as I could see a lot of lead particles being
generated. I doubt any school wants deadly LEAD any where.
I used to just chisel or torch off what I wanted.

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Posted: September 06 2017 at 4:00am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Ordered 250 rounds of 250gr copper plated FP in .452" for less than I can buy metal and cast. Yup, my casting days are limited. And I'm sure not going to complain about it either when I get clean shooting and zero leading.

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Posted: September 08 2017 at 7:25am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

I may go bang away with chisel and maul a bit to get me some lead off the plate for my BP revolvers, but I'm not going to wear myself out doing it. I can't control a power saw any longer. I suspect that holds true for most other devices.

Of some interest, the 250gr. 452" plated FN bullets arrived yesterday. Strangely enough, with 7gr W231 in the 45Colt case, I was surprised to see the bullets strike so well. At 15yds, there were even 3 that were in the bull and several others close in just to the left. Of course I was aiming 2" high and 3" right.

Going out again this morning with 8.5gr Unique. Keep your fingers crossed. But either way, I'm pretty much done with casting. And the copper plated bullets are great! No leading. Easy, fast cleaning. Easy to load. Superb accuracy. Equal or less per round for cost. What's not to like?

Edit: loading plated is identical in powder to bullet weight in lead. Noticed 8.5gr Unique was starting to get "stout" like with 255gr RNFP. Cut back to 8gr Unique and everything is muy bueno! I don't load for the thrill of massive amounts of recoil and muzzle blast. Have far too much respect for my weapons. Know a couple of idiots who load their Colt clones with 11gr or more Unique and a 255gr SWC. Their weapons rattle and the cylinders are both loose and wobbly. They're now shaving lead when shooting and primers are being hit on edges now and not center. I have disassociated myself from them. Told one on the phone to look me up if they survive and grow up.

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