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Posted: July 20 2017 at 2:02pm | IP Logged Quote M700

My youngest son and I spent the morning at the rifle range, practicing from standing and sitting with our chosen bear rifles. Anticipating shorter range shots, we only practiced at 20 and 100 yards. Great way to spend the morning!

He was using the .30-30 Glenfield (Marlin) with the 2.5x Leupold and 170 gr factory ammo:






While I was using "Dad's Bear Rifle" the .375 Ruger Number One, topped by a 3x Leupold and handloaded 270 grain Hornady round-nose soft points:




Bear season opens here, August 1st, and we can hunt close to home.

Great way to spend the morning. Guy
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What's them tubular thangs on top of y'alls bar rifles?

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Posted: July 20 2017 at 4:57pm | IP Logged Quote Ham Gunner

Nice outing with the son for sure. I enjoy it with my son about anytime we can get together.

I have a few test loads to go try out although I really do not need an actual excuse to go, but it will have to wait till the temperatures drop a bit. It has been will up into the high 90's all week and lows above 70. Humidity is up there as well.

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Old Ranger wrote:
What's them tubular thangs on top of y'alls bar rifles?


New Fangled gadgets called Tele-Scopes!

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Posted: July 20 2017 at 5:19pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Now every bar I ever seen was big. I mean those critters are some husky big ole boys. Whatcha need them scopes for? Y'all must have bars the size of chipmonks up thar if ya need scopes to see 'em! Y'all just leave them big guns home 'n just take a couple of ole Marlin .22's with ya for them little "chipmonk bars" ya got use magnifying glasses to see em!

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Well, I'm not as brave as Guy!
I will be using my Rem 300 RUM or my WBY 340 Magnum on
September 1st. That first bear must be 6'5" & 350 pounds on
our trail camera!k

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STCM(SW) wrote:
Well, I'm not as brave as Guy!
I will be using my Rem 300 RUM or my WBY 340 Magnum on
September 1st. That first bear must be 6'5" & 350 pounds on
our trail camera!k


Though I have carried the .30-30 for bear, I've never shot a black bear with it. But, I have no doubt it's quite capable. My son is using it this year.

I'll be along, using the predator call, and covering him with my .375 H&H.

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Posted: July 21 2017 at 8:48am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

That first bear must be 6'5" & 350 pounds on
our trail camera!k [/QUOTE]

Shucks Master Chief, we've fought and arrested drunk cowboys that size here in Texas! Maybe I'll send a couple of em north to help breed y'all some bigger bears!

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Posted: July 21 2017 at 7:15pm | IP Logged Quote M700

Old Ranger - have any photos of your bears?











My son and I got fairly serious about bear hunting a few years ago, in 2010, and have done pretty well. Always with those doggone scopes on our rifle. Weird eh?

So... You hunted some bears?

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So... We may or may not get one this season, but we have a decent track record.

Only about 8% of those hunters in Washington who purchase a bear tag, actually take one. We've got 30,000 - 40,000 bears in Washington. But often they remain in the seriously thick cover where it's pretty doggone tough to tag 'em.

We've figured out ways to ambush 'em when they cross open terrain. No bait allowed here. No dogs. Just get out and find the bear. It's one heck of a hunt!

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Consider your hand called, Texan.
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I do not hunt bears. It is against my beliefs. Its a Lakota thing as bears are viewed as a spiritual animal. Thus I do not kill them.

As to my elbow pokin' in the ribs, guess y'all didn't get the joke. Humorous speach is often lost in print as the vocal tones and inflections are not present. I was joshin y'all but I'll cease my attempts at humor since you boys up north don't care for Rebel humor.

Oh, all the bears here were exterminated by whitemen and the Mexicans that run off the local Indians that lived here first. And no jaguar or black panthers anymore either. They all got wiped out too. There are a few cougar about but they're very scarce. I've only seen one in 50 years here.

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Posted: July 21 2017 at 9:20pm | IP Logged Quote M700

Well heck. The natives/indians in Washington hunt the bear aggressively. They're allowed to bait 'em.

And in Alaska, the natives/indians encouraged us to kill 'em all. They don't really like the bears up there. Seems the grizzlies kill the caribou, and the moose, which are essential parts of the native diet.

I was mildly surprised by that, and found it interesting.

I got your humor. Did you get mine?

Just wanted to point out that my son and I are no strangers to bear hunting. We're pretty good at it. Might not get one this season. Sometimes we don't.

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Guy, did you say that .30-30 is a Glenfield, i.e., Marlin's less expensive line? Looks to be of better quality than the Marlins are now, no surprise.

Guess I never payed close enough attention, but I didn't realize that rifle had the half magazine tube rather than full length, I've always liked those better.

It's a personal thing, but I truly do think I like the Winchester lever guns a tad better, but I have a real soft spot for old Marlines and have a few, oddly, not any in .30-30. Particularly the old waffle top ones, but I'm a sucker if one of the older ones priced reasonably presents itself.

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Ya, I really like the Marlins, and the Glenfield version in particular. They have a good reputation for accuracy.

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M700 wrote:
Old Ranger wrote:
What's them tubular
thangs on top of y'alls bar rifles?


New Fangled gadgets called Tele-Scopes!



Probably just a fad- another one of those flash in the
pan deals. Won't last

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richhodg66 wrote:
Guy, did you say that .30-30 is a
Glenfield, i.e., Marlin's less expensive line? Looks
to be of better quality than the Marlins are now, no
surprise.

Guess I never payed close enough attention, but I
didn't realize that rifle had the half magazine tube
rather than full length, I've always liked those
better.

It's a personal thing, but I truly do think I like the
Winchester lever guns a tad better, but I have a real
soft spot for old Marlines and have a few, oddly, not
any in .30-30. Particularly the old waffle top ones,
but I'm a sucker if one of the older ones priced
reasonably presents itself.


More than few Marlin 1889 to 336 and few in between
and a couple of Winchesters 1873 to 94 with a few in
between BUT NO 30-30 either have wandered through
here.
I got a bolt and pump in 30-30 recently but no levers
Most of my 30-30 brass became 32 Win Spl - 30-30 brass
is a hell of a lot cheaper than 32 Win Spl brass and
one of the easiest conversions possible.
Marlin wasn't the only one to make off brands in 30-
30 levers. I believe Winchester did too- Ted William
100 and 54?
I am kind partial to the Marlin myself - when I was
younger not doing the Winchester hot brass down the
back of the shirt helped a little.....Later in life I
learned T-shirts helped but up North hunting season
don't always run during t-shirt season.

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M-700
Great photos - thank you

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I'll be interested in seeing Guy's report after bear season is done. I'm sure that .375 is a great rifle and all, but I'm kind of rooting for that old Marlin to do what it was born to do. You just gotta love an old .30-30 lever gun.

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richhodg66 wrote:
I'll be interested in seeing Guy's report after bear season is done. I'm sure that .375 is a great rifle and all, but I'm kind of rooting for that old Marlin to do what it was born to do. You just gotta love an old .30-30 lever gun.


I'm not going to shoot unless I need to stop a bear from escaping.

Or eating one of us I suppose!

This is my son's turn, and I too am eager to see the .30-30 on bear!

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