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Posted: 26 July 2017 at 1:01pm | IP Logged Quote KinleyWater

Due to a shipping mix up, and DOT regulations, I am now the proud owner of 1000 CCI 500 (Small Pistol) primers, 1 pound of Accurate No.5, and 1000 Berrys 158 grain plated flat nose bullets. None of which I ordered .

Pleasantly, I have both .38 Special and .357 magnum, so I will certainly be able to put this to work. Does anyone have any experience with No.5?   Any recommended loads?

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Posted: 26 July 2017 at 1:12pm | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

There is some data here on this site that should get you going. Look under 357 mag and it may also be under 38 ;special but I didn't look there. Craig

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Posted: 26 July 2017 at 1:14pm | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

Sorry I didn't look before posting but there is also data under 38 special. Enjoy. Craig

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Posted: 26 July 2017 at 1:18pm | IP Logged Quote KinleyWater

Thanks, Craig!

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Posted: 26 July 2017 at 2:08pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Personally, AA#5 didn't impress me. Granted, I'm inclined towards Unique and Herco for the range that #5's in. My issue with #5 is it fails to burn completely. Especially when in lower levels. In order to get it to burn correctly I was forced to load at the top. Not healthy for my open top conversion revolver.

I'm currently "burning it up" in top loads fired from my M92 levergun with "non-consolidation" bullets. When it's gone, I'll not replace it.

Others may like it.... But you asked of our experience with #5. And that was it.

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Posted: 26 July 2017 at 2:10pm | IP Logged Quote nhblaze

http://www.accuratepowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/acc urate_load_data_3.5.pdf

I always had good luck with AA #5.
Can't find any locally any more.

sounds like a 1000 free rounds, nice score !

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Posted: 26 July 2017 at 2:15pm | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

I'd sure figure out a way to use up a pound of good powder. I've been known to buy another gun if I suddenly ended up with reloading stuff I didn't have anything else for.

I got a bunch of Alcan powder, probably five or six pounds of AL=5 and a whole keg of Al-7 I haven't broken into yet. Niether has been made for at least forty years, but it's good and I'll find load data for it. After that big run on components for a few years, I won't let stuff go to waste.

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Posted: 26 July 2017 at 2:51pm | IP Logged Quote KinleyWater

Ranger - Thanks; I'll remember that when looking at loads. I'm not really worried about max loads with my revolvers, but it's nice to know that I might have problems with the minimum loads.

Blaze - Thanks for the link! The day after I placed a separate order, I went to a local store and found primers and powders for less that what I spent on my order. Then I got this order by accident and I am well ahead in the ledger.

Rich - Like I need another excuse to buy guns . Still...

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Posted: 27 July 2017 at 7:34am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Well, as I said some folks like it. I never got good groups from it and it meters poorly in my old #55 measure. Kinda like dust with a like bit of dirt mixed in. Same sorta stuff with #9. I tried it since 2400 is an urban legend now. Didn't care for the stuff.
But either way, you got it for free due to a retailer's foul up and didn't cost ya zip. Might as well use it since DOT won't allow you to send it back if I remember my hazmat regs correctly.... Who knows, you might find a load at, or near, the top that works.

The 2016 Western manual lists the following for 158gr Berry's plated in .38th and #5

5.2gr 807fps..... 5.8gr. 897fps @ 16,820psi

Plus P:
5.8gr. 891fps.... 6.4gr. 980fps @ 19,921psi

.357Mag: 158gr LSC

8.0gr. 1,000fps..... 9.0gr.. 1,220fps @ 34,500psi


As one can see there is a narrow margin of use in the powder range. Between .6gr to just 1gr is not much and it goes from starting to max quickly. Unless one has a dependable measure, somebody's going to be measuring a lot of powder on a scale.

Berry's plated bullets are fine. I use them in .45ACP,.44mag, and .44Spl and all with ridiculously tight accuracy! And I'm a confirmed caster, but I save my boxtops and will buy Berry's Bullets 1,000 at a time and am proud to say that too. They're that good.

Ok, time for my nap and I've gone on long enough here as folks say I talk too much. But that's from those that know me... Have fun with those plated bullets and good luck with the #5!

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Posted: 27 July 2017 at 4:44pm | IP Logged Quote noylj

The start loads are just the regular 10% below Max. You can go lower with AA5,
if you want, but then you would do better with a faster powder. I find that AA5,
when it is accurate, is almost always the MOST accurate.

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Posted: 28 July 2017 at 8:59am | IP Logged Quote KinleyWater

Old Ranger wrote:
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Ok, time for my nap and I've gone on long enough here as folks say I talk too much. But that's from those that know me... Have fun with those plated bullets and good luck with the #5!


For the record, you may feel free to talk as much as you like on any thread of mine.

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Posted: 28 July 2017 at 9:02am | IP Logged Quote KinleyWater

noylj wrote:
The start loads are just the regular 10% below Max. You can go lower with AA5,
if you want, but then you would do better with a faster powder. I find that AA5,
when it is accurate, is almost always the MOST accurate.


Very interesting observation regarding accuracy. I am more of a recreational shooter, but I am interested to see how things turn out. Does this tend to occur for you at max load, or a little under?

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Posted: 28 July 2017 at 12:24pm | IP Logged Quote noylj

So far, a max load for me has never been most accurate.
Magazines and manuals often have the most accurate load being a max load,
but I just haven't seen it yet.

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Posted: 28 July 2017 at 7:25pm | IP Logged Quote John P.

I really like AA#5, and I used a lot of it in the past. During the
component drought I couldn't find it, and I ended up buying 10 pounds
of HP38 that I am using up. I especially liked #5 in .38 Special. At the
time I was able to buy Remington 158 and 125 grain bulk SJHP bullets
at good prices. With the 125, 6.8 grains and with the 158's I used 5.8
grains. In .357 Magnum I used 8.6 grains with the 158 grain bullet.

Overall, accurate, clean, and measured well. When I use up the HP38,
I will be looking for some #5.

Good luck and nice score..
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Posted: 29 July 2017 at 6:10am | IP Logged Quote KinleyWater

All, thanks for the advice. What sorts of primers are you using? I'm just loading for fun at the range, mind you. I assume the CCI primers which came with the shipment will be no problem.

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Posted: 29 July 2017 at 6:33am | IP Logged Quote John P.

CCI or Winchester primers are all I use. Both were fine with #5.
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