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RB in GA
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Posted: August 11 2017 at 4:44am | IP Logged Quote RB in GA

Ranger Moochers/Campers.... I can only get to the range
every 2 to 3 months on weekends. I have my stuff
reloaded and ready when I go. Well I finally get over to
my range (private paid) and there's Old Bob and Old Jim
(retired old timers). I pull up and start to pile my
stuff the range table. Old Bob and Old Jim have been
there for hours shooting the breeze, rehashing the same
old sh!t they talked about last weekend. They see me and
start in "What you got over there young fellow", I'm 58
years old? Now they want to discuss every aspect of me
and my guns. "I'M HERE TO GET SOME PRACTICE AT ACTUALLY
SHOOTING". I nicely ask? Can we go HOT? Just a minute
there young fellow, let me bullsh!t for another 15
minutes, then I'll go down range and fart around with my
targets for 10 more minutes and then Old Bill shows up
and we got to discuss his recent visit to the foot
doctor.

Yep they have Mooched my entire afternoon at the range
and don't have a clue.
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Posted: August 11 2017 at 10:30am | IP Logged Quote nhblaze

You have to pay to shoot there,
and still get this kind of -hit !

Just up the road is a large section
of town forest, I made a 50 yd range
and no one is ever there shooting,
kinda like my own range. Stories like
yours, and there are lots of them,
really make me appreciate my spot.

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Posted: August 11 2017 at 1:43pm | IP Logged Quote M700

Ya, I'm in my 60's, but I too like to get busy and get some shooting done when I'm at the range.

We have a few fellows who seem to think that the range is a place to BS with everyone.

However, most of the club members have learned to say "Hey, that's interesting, but I really need to get some targets up and shoot."

Assertive, but not being a jerk to the lonely old guys.

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Posted: August 11 2017 at 4:58pm | IP Logged Quote KinleyWater

Amen and Amen. The good rifle range (150 yards) is a 2 1/2 hour drive for me. Cannot stand people who do that sort of thing - or think they can take over a bench for each of their rifles.

*sigh* I need my own property to shoot on.

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Posted: August 11 2017 at 11:54pm | IP Logged Quote STCM(SW)

I go into the colville forest and shoot at my own time.

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Posted: August 12 2017 at 5:42am | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

I do most of my shooting on my own place now, but still go to a public range I like now and then. Gotta admit, I do some talking and socializing, several guys there I like to catch up with, but we have RSOs there so most of the talking and socializing goes on when the range is hot.

Timing rang visits can be troublesome. The last three years or so I was on active duty, I was a geographic bachelor on Fort Leavenworth. When I wasn't TDY and traveling, the job didn't involve much and I had pretty flexible hours. The nearest good place to shoot was a Missouri state maintained range 40 minutes away which was a decent range but comepletely unsupervised. I learned real quick that if I wanted to shoot, I needed to get out there while most people were at work. People would show up routinely that were accidents waiting to happen.

The good news was that most of the people I ran into during off hours were pretty serious and knowledgeable shooters. Met some interesting folks, but I stay away from public ranges during peak times. I especially hate pay as you go indoor ranges. Those places just seem to be magnets for a$$holes.

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Posted: August 12 2017 at 8:22am | IP Logged Quote Ham Gunner

When my Father-in-law (FIL) first retired and moved nearby on ten acres, we made a nice 25, 50, and 100 yd. shooting range below his house along a curving bluff above his creek. Worked great for both him and me for years and years. I could set up my chronograph and work up loads and such without a care in the world as to time restraints. Was great.

FIL's neighbor passed away that owned the farm next to the range and his son-in-law (SIL)took over the land. The SIL is a bow hunter and although there are many acres of land for him to hunt on, he choose to hunt close to our range. He complained about my constant (sighting in of my guns) as if that was what I was doing, saying that I was scaring away his deer. My FIL decided to keep the peace and suggested that I not shoot so much.

Well, I have the MO. Dept. of Conservation unsupervised range to use about 12 miles away, but I normally only go there to do some quick shooting or just to pick up brass due to the normal confusion and amateur antics of those unfamiliar with guns or range safety. I have gotten into a bit of discussion with the idiots. Mostly civil though. And there are some good shooters there from time to time and we also get into a decent bit of good BS about shooting or hand loading. But unsupervised ranges can be a royal pain sometimes.

For my more dedicated load work ups and such I travel about 30-40 miles to a decent deserted section of Forest Service and set up my portable bench and put my bullets into a hillside. I still have the old 240 acre family farm about 45 miles away that I can also go do some shooting on so I do have options other than public ranges.

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Posted: August 12 2017 at 3:01pm | IP Logged Quote KinleyWater

richhodg66 wrote:
... I especially hate pay as you go indoor ranges. Those places just seem to be magnets for a$$holes.


Funny you should say that. I remember walking out to the lanes of an indoor range once with my wife. After seeing not one but four or five bullet holes in the gear tables along the back wall, we decided discretion was the better part of marksmanship and left without even setting our gear down.

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Posted: August 13 2017 at 4:31am | IP Logged Quote REM1875

I live on about 9 very, very rural acres and our main
land is about 10 miles down the road.
Every time I drag out the big guns here the neighbors
swears he hears rounds passing over his head
.....first time I tore out that range and backing.
Next time I told him bullsh*t and called him a liar
(ranges are heavy backed with multiple safe guards and
pointed in directions away from him --he is a 1/4 mile
away but I gave him benefit of the doubt)   The
sheriff came over......
We cooled down - I don't like loading every thing up
and doing the 20 mile round trip when I have two heavy
re-enforced ranges a few yards from the reloading
shed......

(I do think that scarring away HIS deer is part of the
real problem- have watched the deer on numerous
military ranges all over I have my doubts of them
being removed from gun fire during most of the year)

I don't want to start another famous range war here
again.... and yes he has over 100 acres of nice wooded
and open land and chooses to use the tree stands
behind my place......

His wife and my wife get along well and there is no
winning a war with neighbors so I shoot smaller stuff
in the yard. I take the bigger hand guns and rifles up
to the ranch every once in while......

And every once in a great will I take my Ruger Black-
Hawk 30 carb with military loads and fire a cylinder
or 2 (maybe 3 or 4 or 8 or 10) off into the range in
the back yard.....
Cause I am an old jerk

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Posted: August 13 2017 at 4:49am | IP Logged Quote REM1875

The last public ranges I visited regularly were in
Germany 30 or so years ago --- the had like a pub up
front for conversation with a few brews and food --and
ranges in back for the serious stuff -- my main concern
although most seemed to handle it very well was the fact
you could have a few brews before you went shooting ---
a no,no in my rules - brewskis are for after the the
last round is down range........

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Posted: August 13 2017 at 10:12pm | IP Logged Quote Ham Gunner

REM1875 wrote:

you could have a few brews before you went shooting ---
a no,no in my rules - brewskis are for after the the
last round is down range........


Reminded me of a trip to the public unsupervised range. Had it to myself one day until two young pups showed up to pop a few rounds through their handguns. It was hot and they both brought along their beers. As it so happens, yellow jackets like beer as well and one of the idiots decided to pick up his can and take a big swig of yellow jacket. Had a nice fat lip by the time they emptied their box of shells.

Since the range is on the state forest, the local conservation agent frequents the range from time to time to see what kind of clowns are using it and I was sort of hoping that he would show up that day. Alcohol while operating a firearm is a felony in our state.

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Posted: August 14 2017 at 10:22am | IP Logged Quote mikld

Yep, range rats can be entertaining or annoying. I think I would
give them 5 minutes and excuse myself with "excuse me fellers,
but I came here to shoot my guns, not shoot the breeze" and
start shooting...

This is why 99% of my shooting is done during the week. For
me shooting is a solo sport, not a social event...

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Had a visitor on my pistol range yesterday. A little cottontail rabbit was grazing on the grass at the 7.5yd line. Her family has a home in the brush behind the berm. I stopped short and bid Mrs. Cottentail a good dinner and walked back to the house.

In my woods, the "good wildlife" have the right of way. And when a peace officer, in patrol I got half an hour for mealtime. Starting from the moment I got out of the unit until I got back in it. Invariably some jackwagon had to approach me and start pissing and moaning about a ticket they received. I grew to hate interruption of meals. So out of respect to Mrs. Cottentail, the range was hers. If it were an aramidillo it would have been blown outta it's shell!

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M700 wrote:
Ya, I'm in my 60's, but I too like to get
busy and get some shooting done when I'm at the range.

We have a few fellows who seem to think that the range
is a place to BS with everyone.

However, most of the club members have learned to say
"Hey, that's interesting, but I really need to get some
targets up and shoot."

Guy
Assertive, but not being a jerk to the
lonely old guys.


Yeah, that's exactly the way I handle it. Most of the
time they retreat to the parking lot or the local Waffle
House to resume the chat.

I've been a member of "our" range for over 30 years.
Membership was pretty low back before Clinton, and
members would meet over at the range and BS more than
shoot, kind of like the Moose Lodge. During the last 15+
years with Obama-Scare membership has exploded and most
"new" members come to range to put rounds downrange and
talk very little, especially on weekends.

It's a tough call. I see it from both sides.
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Posted: August 16 2017 at 7:47pm | IP Logged Quote LAH

I'm blessed with a remote gun club & a public range I use
of the winter when snow is on the ground [no one there]. I
also have miles & miles of coal/land company property on
which to shoot. Life is good in WV but would be better if
the ground wasn't so uneven.

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Posted: August 17 2017 at 4:51pm | IP Logged Quote RB in GA

In retrospect, I'm getting pretty close to 60... my local
Gun Range is the only "Club" I actually belong to. Maybe,
I should be spending more time at monthly meeting at the
VFW. Maybe get over there on Sat morning and start
"chewing the fat" like everyone else.

Sure would decrease the round count I have to reload.
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