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Posted: August 18 2017 at 2:30pm | IP Logged Quote GregT

Hello to all!
My first post to the forum so if I mess something up, let me know! I just bought this Ruger the other day for what reason.... I just like the .44 Special and got tired of shooting .44 Special loads thru my S&W 629. I wanted a dedicated .44 Special. I started by loading a light charge of SOLO 1000. The charge I use with a 200 grain cast FPRNBB .430", is a bit below 4 grains and gives me a little over 700 fps. The powder is the cleanest burning I have ever used. There seems to be a lot thought of Red Dot and Unique in this caliber. I'm not a fan of the fine ball powders as I use a couple of Belding and Mull Visible loader powder measures and fine ball powder is not compatible with them. (For what it's worth, these Belding and Mull measures are the best measures I have found in years of reloading). Anyone else load for this Ruger GP100 in .44 Special?
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Welcome to the forum.

I load a couple of .44 Specials, but both are fairly small belly guns. In my experience, it likes Unique, but with the lighter loads I tend to shoot in those small revolvers, faster burning ones get better burn. Bullseye is fine, haven't used any Red Dot in a long time, but it's great stuff. Lately, I've been shooting up a large lot of Alcan 120 which is about the same burn rate as Red Dot and it works well too.



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I shoot alot of 44 Spl's.






For the target one's, it's a 204 gr WC I mold with 5 gr of BE.
For SD load in the S&W M696, 204 gr WC with 18.7 gr of 2400.

The N frame S&W hunting loads it's 240 gr Spear JHP with 12.0 gr of blue Dot.

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Welcome!

I love the look of that Ruger, but I do not own one. I shoot my specials through a M69.

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Good Morning!
Thank you all for the welcome to this forum! Due to the "fine" weather we are having here in NW Wisconsin, I'm sitting here with some reloads for my GP100 .44 that I hope I can use today... Also, perhaps I could ask if there is a way to reply to each post or do I have to do a reply to all who wrote me as I am doing here? I need to ask what Model the S&W stainless 4" barrel with combat grips is? It has the newer cylinder latch. Did I miss something? I will post during the day if I can get out and shoot and have something to say. I will also post some photos by way of their url so you can see what I am up to.

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GregT wrote:
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Thank you all for the welcome to this forum!... Also, perhaps I could ask if there is a way to reply to each post or do I have to do a reply to all who wrote me as I am doing here? ...


Okay, If I understand the question correctly, I think the best way to do it is to send a PM - that will go to just the individual and not be publicly posted.

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GregT wrote:
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Thank you all for the welcome to this forum! Due to the "fine" weather we are having here in NW Wisconsin, I'm sitting here with some reloads for my GP100 .44 that I hope I can use today... Also, perhaps I could ask if there is a way to reply to each post or do I have to do a reply to all who wrote me as I am doing here? I need to ask what Model the S&W stainless 4" barrel with combat grips is? It has the newer cylinder latch. Did I miss something? I will post during the day if I can get out and shoot and have something to say. I will also post some photos by way of their url so you can see what I am up to.


Or you can use the quote button in the upper right corner to bring a copy of the specific post you are replying to.

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Welcome Greg.

The GP-100 is a tank and since you already have the 629, no need to make a magnum out of it, but it certainly is capable of stretching the limits a bit without difficulty for some possible serious carry loads. I had a 3" GP-100 in .357 mag. that was a very accurate revolver. My Son took a liking to it and so it is now under his loving care.

My favorite near upper limit load that I worked up for my .44 mag. revolver using Special brass was around 16 grains 2400 and the Keith 429421. It was a tack driver and actually only on the upper edge of Special pressure. Back when I still had eyes to see, I could knock down soda cans at 100 yards with that load using the same sight setting needed for the .44 mag. rounds at 25 yards.

For my Charter Arms Bulldog I have so far found that Unique and BR-5 (Military Surplus) work about the best that I have tested. I have tried the Lyman 429215gc bullet and the 429421. The heavier 429421 has been consistently better in the Bulldog and point of impact is correct with the fixed sights whereas the lighter gas checked bullet impacts low/left in about all my test loads.

Unique was most accurate when loaded up near the upper limit of .44 Special pressure range. I have read that Win 340/HS-6 works well also but I have not tested that powder, even though I do have some. Perhaps that might happen at a later date.

Unlike with my little Bulldog which is very light, with a heavy framed .44 Special, I would imagine that finding a pleasant as well as an accurate round with about any powder, even the slower burners would be easily done without worry of overdoing it. That is certainly a hefty revolver.

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Ham Gunner wrote:
Welcome Greg.

Unlike with my little Bulldog which is very light, with a heavy framed .44 Special, I would imagine that finding a pleasant as well as an accurate round with about any powder, even the slower burners would be easily done without worry of overdoing it. That is certainly a hefty revolver.


Thanks for the post. The reload I fired today was a light load of Solo 1000 and a 200 grain lead RNFPBB and it was probably too light a charge. The fired cases did not seal the chambers. I am going to raise the charge a bit. Accuracy at 30 feet was an enlarged, one shot hole for three shots! (From a rest)
Another object of the test fire was to check factory sight adjustment which may have been a bit high. My intention is also not to shoot jacketed bullets in this handgun... No reason to that I see. I use a Sig Ultra Compact two-tone .45 ACP for concealed carry. Lots of adventures coming with this GP100. I'm glad I finally found a group that has actually done real life work with their firearms!
Thanks to all!
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Nice start there Master Chief

Those are some real beauties - look like that would
make you our resident expert......
I have a 246 gr round nose backed with a little
Unique, that I use in my Ruger Blackhawk. 44 Spl gives
my 3rd caliber in it and much more pleasant to shoot
than 44 mag - but I like my 44-40 out of it best of
all......
The 44 Spl is one hell of an accurate round

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Welcome aboard

Thanks for the much anticipated report on that gun - I
been wondering since they released that thing what it
was like ?

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Welcome aboard

Thanks for the much anticipated report on that gun - I
been wondering since they released that thing what it
was like ?


     I have always wanted a handgun that a person could load for in a caliber that was inherently accurate. I have no doubt that this one will prove to be just that. It is a real chunk in the hand. I think I like the Hogue rubber grip. I have small hands and luckily my finger to the trigger is just right. Trigger pull single action is around 4#. I don't have a scale and will take it into the gun shop to get it weighed next week. Double action pull is what I would normally expect, probably 10#+. I sat last night and "exercised" the double action pull. I don't just snap it: I assist the hammer down using the thumb on my left hand to cushion the fall. Lubed the trigger and hammer up a bit first as I want to ease the rough edges off the cocking and the hammer-fall. Good exercise for the Ruger and great exercise for the arthritis I'm trying to keep out of my fingers... Definate set-up at the end of the double action pull. I probably won't shoot much double action. The lock-up of the cylinder to the frame is superb. Triple locks are the legend and lucky is the man who owns one. The engineering that went into the lock-up of the cylinder into the frame of this Ruger is something to admire.
     Shooting and load development will tell the tale. I have some surprises I will run by you all. I collect antique gunpowder...and every so often make use of it. I could set up an Elmer Keith load right now with DuPont SR80 powder of the same vintage that Elmer used. Not the load he is known for.. God only knows what he would have done with a handgun with the strength of this GP100 Ruger. More to come!
Until then,
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I have the GP 100 and SP 101 in 327 Fed Mag and the
difference (besides capacity) is miles.
One is really a hunk of high quality, well balanced,
iron compared to a sleek, feel good piece- and there is
nothing wrong with a high quality, well balanced, hunk
of iron. Just ya really know they are very different
despite similarities.........   

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[QUOTE=REM1875] GregT
I have the GP 100 and SP 101 in 327 Fed Mag and the
difference (besides capacity) is miles.

You have about 3 more cartridges you can use in your SP 101 in .327 Federal. Very versatile.
I have a replica (Uberti) Richards/Mason conversion revolver in caliber .38 Special. That also is muzzle heavy and I think even weighs more than the GP100. I had to cut the v-notch out of the hammer and lower the front sight and planned to start shooting that. Then the hand spring broke. I sent the revolver to Cimarron for repairs.... I took a real hit in the wallet on that one! I did not have a hand for that model or I would have fit it myself! Will also be doing some work with the replica Remington New Model 1858 and its companion revolving carbine, both of which I got cartridge cylinders for and converted to .45 Colt. Got the cartridge cylinders from Howell's right here in Wisconsin. They are good folks to work with! Got to get moving on this stuff as my school "vacation" is almost over!
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Sounds like fun - you won't be bored unless you want to
be
I am interest in how the conversion to cartridge goes -
keep us posted........

Yes I love the 327's and very versatile- from the mellow
32 ACP through the 32 S&W (short and long) The sad 32
H&R Mag disaster- to the real barker -327 Fed Mag....

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Good evening!

I did slug the bore the other day. Groove diameter is .3565". I was worried it might be the old .375". We'll see how it goes.
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Shot my S&W M696 today with the defense loads.
3 touching & 2 1" away at 7 Yds.
Stiff recoil in a L frame, but not that bad.
Took my S&W M24-5 target but forgot to take the target ammo it's sighted in for.
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Good morning! Here is the url to some photos of where my interest started in the .32 caliber revolvers. I'll show you later another reason why I had to have the GP100 .44 Special.

http://www.fototime.com/inv/BEDCD9CFF73D8B4

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GregT wrote:
Good morning! Here is the url to some
photos of where my interest started in the .32 caliber
revolvers. I'll show you later another reason why I
had to have the GP100 .44 Special.

http://www.fototime.com/inv/BEDCD9CFF73D8B4

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Nice, Greg, Very nice- I want a Colt DA in 32-20 to
match my S&W
It is the favorite of all beginning shooters here at
the hacienda ......
I have more that a few 327 Fed Mags and we shoot all
from 32 ACP on up but I believe the 32 Colt is a
somewhat different animal.......

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