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Posted: September 10 2017 at 2:20pm | IP Logged Quote M700



Good group of folks at today's Basic Handgun class. I was surprised, we had four revolver shooters! That is rare. Mostly people bring semi-autos, and of course there were a few, but at this class there was one .22 Ruger Single Six, and three 2" .38 revolvers. Cool.

Very safe gun handling, and the marksmanship was pretty good, particularly for one brand new shooter, who had never fired a shot before. She used my 22/45 Ruger with the 5.5" heavy barrel, and of course, she shot the best groups! Hard to beat a decent .22 for easy shooting.

It was a mighty fine morning here in central Washington, and very little wildfire smoke for a change!

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Neat. Wish I lived close enough to take one of your classes myself.
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Posted: September 12 2017 at 5:01pm | IP Logged Quote M700

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Neat. Wish I lived close enough to take one of your classes myself.


Thanks! After careers in the Marines and in Law Enforcement, I like to pass that knowledge on to other good people.

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Barbara & I both used the K-22 for carry classes. Six inch
barrel & excellent trigger is hard to beat.

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LAH wrote:
Barbara & I both used the K-22 for carry classes. Six inch
barrel & excellent trigger is hard to beat.


Indeed, that would be an excellent choice!

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When inquiring about renewal of a long expired CHL with an instructor of same, I was asked about what I'd likely shoot for qualification. When I said a '56 model M&P, he snikered and said something about old, inefficient antique weapon. I informed him that I've been in three shootings as a peace officer with a total of five shooting back and was armed with an inefficient antique. And then asked how many shootings has he'd been in. I got no response. I walked away. The revolver is far from outdated. Keep teaching double action work with those folks Guy.

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I've never been in a shooting before, but I have been in similar discussions as Wade. I've been to some really useless training classes by "professionals".
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I've never been in a shooting before, but I have been in similar discussions as Wade. I've been to some really useless training classes by "professionals".


A lot of folks think my training is far from "useless."

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Posted: September 17 2017 at 5:41am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Easy bear killer! I believe that remark was about the clown that told me my DA revolver was a usless antique. It's pretty obvious that you're teaching folks proper and SAFE gun handling and shooting skills. Training that helps keep folks involved in our sport/lifestyle, shown proper techniques and moreover, good habits to work from.

Now as to the CHL instructor who said my old .38 was an outdated, inefficient, antique weapon. I had him pegged as a guy who collected a few guns, went to the instructor course, and charges folks so he can feel like a real "gunman". His type is pretty easy to spot. Ya see em standing around gun shops for hours talking to anyone who will listen about the ballistics of this and that with all his "experience" gained from the internet. Yeah, they're easy to spot.

So carry on Guy and keep training em up! You know me, I'm a nut about training and believe there's only two kinds of folks in this world. Those that are trained and those that ain't.

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Guy, sorry for the confusion. I was talking about Wades post and wasn't trying to infer anything about you or your training.

I was referring to the "experts" that can't understand real bad guys aren't two dimensional graphic images stapled solidly to a target hanger and never shoot back and that you have to have the latest, most expensive garbage hyped in the gun comics to survive a gun fight.
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Posted: September 19 2017 at 7:06pm | IP Logged Quote Atavist

Good stuff M700... I saw the same ilk wade is
talking about at my CCW class in Ky (about a
decade ago)... most of the class actually had
wheel guns, I carried my Springfield Champion
1911, the guy was adamant that only the Glock
was absolutely reliable and wheel guns don't
have high enough capacity... anything else is
just putting yourself in danger... what a
crock.
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Posted: September 24 2017 at 9:04pm | IP Logged Quote M700

And another Basic Handgun Course today!

All ladies this time. A few revolvers, more semi-autos. Cartridges included .22 long rifle, .380, 9mm, and .38 Special.

Good no-nonsense cartridges. No magnums. No weird offbeat cartridges.

People did well. SAFE and reasonably accurate.

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Posted: September 25 2017 at 5:02am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Safety #1. Good on ya Guy!
And no nonsense in the calibers. Excellent. Sounds like you had a good class!

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Posted: October 08 2017 at 5:19am | IP Logged Quote M700

And up early today, another Basic Handgun Course.

Had one person specifically ask if I'd bring a rifle along too, so the .22 Marlin 39A will be in attendance. Apparently I'm adding a little rifle-coaching in today's class. Cool.

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Old Ranger wrote:
When inquiring about renewal of a long expired CHL with an instructor of same, I was asked about what I'd likely shoot for qualification. When I said a '56 model M&P, he snikered and said something about old, inefficient antique weapon. I informed him that I've been in three shootings as a peace officer with a total of five shooting back and was armed with an inefficient antique. And then asked how many shootings has he'd been in. I got no response. I walked away. The revolver is far from outdated. Keep teaching double action work with those folks Guy.


I've carried a 1911 for right at 45 years now (for the last 20 years 2 1911s), before that I had a couple of LE jobs that required I carry a revolver. You could say I'm a fan of the heavy duty auto (the light duty ones not so much).

Having studied this field pretty seriously I'd have to say that anyone who thinks a revolver won't get the job done the vast majority of the time has not been looking at the same incidents I've been looking at - even my military students found it rare when 3 to 5 rounds would not do the job (except for 9mm ball).

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Posted: October 31 2017 at 1:51pm | IP Logged Quote M700

Ya, a good revolver, or a good semi-auto, well handled, is an effective self-defense firearm, no doubt.

For my revolvers, I have two favorites, both from S&W:
357 mag Model 19, 2.5" barrel
44 mag Model 629, 5" barrel

I don't really consider the .44 a "concealed carry" gun, though it has lurked under my coat a number of times. If I'm going into bear country, it's often along, and it'll likely be the only sidearm with me.

Otherwise, like right now, it's normally the .45 1911.

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