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Posted: September 30 2017 at 3:00pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger






Like Lynn, I get packages now and then that cause massive smiles and delight. Yesterday, I received a brand new, 1961 Lyman/Ideal #55 powder measure in the box. Complete with all spacers, parts envelopes, and documents. Stunning! I went back 57 years.

Naturally, metering is remarkably smooth and precise. The new to me Universal powder flows like water! Been using my ancient Ideal #5 for a spell. The old #55 I started with is with my grandkids. Don't think I'll tell em ole Gramps got a new measure that's older than both of them combined!

This was quite a find too! Nearly all I ever see are beat to hell examples of abuse.... But 100% complete and unspoiled by Goober or Bubba? Like Lynn says "Happiness"!

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Posted: September 30 2017 at 5:01pm | IP Logged Quote Rex

That is a great find Wade!
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That's an updated list (1961) from the listings from the older manuals. Depending upon the lot, it's pretty close too. Often, it's a bit on the light side.

The numbers on the 3 slides are graduated for black powder. The chart above converts smokeless to match the marks. I get a real laugh when folks say you can't use a #5 or a #55 to measure black powder. For crying out loud, smokeless powder was an afterthought.

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Posted: October 01 2017 at 8:14am | IP Logged Quote Ham Gunner

Wow, what a nice find. Looks like the color was still that slightly darker reddish orange rather than the later more yellow orange of their products in the 70's-80's and later. About the same color as my Spart-T press from the late 60's early 70's and like my early "45" lube sizer.

My "55" has an aluminum knob on the crank handle and a black painted powder "knocker". A few other features have been changed a slight amount as well.

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Truly a great find !

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Posted: October 01 2017 at 3:53pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Yeah, I was tickled pink! The paint is indeed the old dark orange, and when I started useing it, the knocker started chipping away a bit. Oh well... My other one is at my grandkids place. It's got 55 years on it but still going. I use my ancient Ideal #5 quite a bit but for steady bench use I like the 55 the best.

And gents, this was a hell-of-a find true enough. But every now and then something does go right for the old troop here.

Edited by Old Ranger on October 01 2017 at 3:56pm


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Posted: October 05 2017 at 6:45am | IP Logged Quote M700

Nice!

Just used my 55 last night, while loading up a batch of .45 ACP ammo on the Lyman turret press.

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You did good Wade.


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Wow...   I have the EXACT same powder measure sitting right here (in the crumbling box) and never knew how old it was. I'm coming up on 57 real quick, but never knew this measure was likely the same age as I am. Unfortunately, my instruction sheet and bottom of the box is turning to "dust", and I am missing the lid for the hopper, but still have two aluminum drop tubes.

The truth is that I don't really know how to use it, as it differs a great deal from my Pacific and RCBS powder measures.

There is a part of the rotor that slides out when I loosen the thumb-nut below the throw lever, it has graduations etched onto it - but I must admit that I've never taken the time to figure out how to use it.    

More than anything - the weighted "knocker" served more as a means of teaching me how to achieve consistent throw weights from my other powder measures. So owning this measure has still proven worthwhile in that regard.

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Posted: October 13 2017 at 7:56am | IP Logged Quote M700

Slick, you can still get from Lyman, a cap for the hopper!

I had to get a new plastic hopper for mine.

There are also some good online videos showing how to use the Lyman powder measure. I use mine just for handgun loads.

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M700 wrote:
There are also some good online videos showing how to use the Lyman powder measure.


Thanks for the suggestion Guy! There was a surprising amount of info on Youtube. I just never thought to look there since the measure is so old. Mine came in a box of items that I picked up from an estate. I think it's going to be perfect to use on my "traveling loading press" set up.

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One word of warning for folks who have this measure!!! The set screw for locking the charge bar has a small leather plug in the end of the screw to prevent galling the slide when it's tightened down.

While cleaning up this set-screw, I thought it was a piece of dirt and managed to ruin the leather plug... Fortunately I have an appropriate size leather punch to make a new plug. So use care it you remove this screw.

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Posted: October 13 2017 at 1:41pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Been using #55s for well over 50 years. My "travel measure" for my 310 tools in the box is a 1903 Ideal No.5 , the daddy of the #55. No micrometer stuff. Strictly slide bars, but über accurate!

If one wishes to do rifle loads, the large slide (the big round bottom that most folks don't even know is there) is the baby. The object is with this measure, use the least width of slide for the job. Light loads of Bullseye and such, top slide. Medium stuff like 8 to 18 of 2400 and such, 2nd slide. Rifle, 3rd slide. It has no micrometer, but if you're steady and patient, you can adjust it well. The idea is narrow gap in the slide means less jamming. I just loaded some 223Rem with 22gr of IMR3031. A wide gap with the second slide, but hardly open with the third. A narrow gap also means less "cutting" of extruded powder. I measured the 3031 like it was Bullseye in my new [old] #55 today. And it's dead accurate too.

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Old Ranger wrote:
A narrow gap also means less "cutting"
of extruded powder.


Yes, narrow & deep for the stick stuff. Mine does IMR 3031
very nicely also.

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