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Posted: October 18 2017 at 8:55am | IP Logged Quote joed

Guy, I haven't used it since last summer.   I spent 30 min trying to
get the EOTech to come on.   Problem was the brightness was
turned all the way down.   Took me awhile to figure that one out.

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Posted: October 18 2017 at 11:22am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Primary reason I have iron sights on my weapon.
The scope is for extreme distance.

With iron sights it's:
Zero at 1" low @25m. On at 300m. Verified at 100m.

Sorry boys, every Ranger's a rifleman no matter what his speciality may be.

Things that need batteries just almost always poop out when ya need em.

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I neglected to mention dead on zero at 50m is also dead on zero at 200m. With a tiny bit more than 7" low at 300m with 100 & 200m primary battle sight. Still chest cavity hit for without sight correction.

Course I don't expect most of us older gents engaging multiple threats beyond the wife saying that if you don't get to the table soon, your dinner will get cold. But it's a good tidbit of information to dazzle your amigos with.

Edited by Old Ranger on October 18 2017 at 3:23pm


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Old Ranger wrote:

Things that need batteries just almost always poop out when ya
need em.


Exactly.   That's why I made sure the original sites could still be used
with the EOTech still on the gun.

Like others my age I don't trust modern technology.

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Posted: October 21 2017 at 7:42pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Here's what I built up from a bare railed top and gas block. With those M-4 rear sights and a sound front sight with good ammo built from joed's 69gr Sierra MKs and Rex's cases, I'm getting 1" groups at 100yds off my homemade front rest on a dilapidated workmate bench.



And yes, that bit of camouflage fleece is my bedspread.
I'm so confident in this weapon and loads I may just take it to the field hunting bambisaurus the first day of rifle season. Grandson built me a ground blind complete with an office chair! How's that for taking care of the old man huh?

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Wade,

Just a reminder.....that 69gr. Sierra MK is not a hunting bullet. The Sierra 65gr. GK is a hunting bullet.


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Posted: October 22 2017 at 2:40pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Way ahead of ya Mike. Got some softpoint already on the way.

I am not going to be using a scope. Either the scope, the mounts, the manner in which the earth rotates.... I don't know, but I stink with a scope but shoot fine with G.I. style iron sights. Oh well, I like iron better anyway.

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Buffalogun wrote:
Wade,

Just a reminder.....that 69gr. Sierra MK is not a hunting bullet.
The Sierra 65gr. GK is a hunting bullet.


Mike
I don't know of anyone using the 69 gr MK
for hunting but I'd bet money they have.

Myself I try to use a bullet that is designed for what I'm doing.   
Though I admit to using 52 gr Sierra MKs in the .22-250 for
groundhogs. They have worked well but I bet there will be a time
when one doesn't do its job.

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Posted: October 22 2017 at 4:51pm | IP Logged Quote KinleyWater

Old Ranger wrote:
Primary reason I have iron sights on my weapon.
The scope is for extreme distance.

With iron sights it's:
Zero at 1" low @25m. On at 300m. Verified at 100m.

Sorry boys, every Ranger's a rifleman no matter what his speciality may be.

Things that need batteries just almost always poop out when ya need em.

Edit:
I neglected to mention dead on zero at 50m is also dead on zero at 200m. With a tiny bit more than 7" low at 300m with 100 & 200m primary battle sight. Still chest cavity hit for without sight correction.

Course I don't expect most of us older gents engaging multiple threats beyond the wife saying that if you don't get to the table soon, your dinner will get cold. But it's a good tidbit of information to dazzle your amigos with.


Interesting to read this. When I carried a rifle a bit smaller than this for work, we had the optic and iron sights set to co-witness. We were dialed in for 25m. Either way, you need to know exactly where the bullet goes; starting at the muzzle and ending at XXX distance.

For those of you who do not know what I mean: Set your target backer up with 3 targets of the same size on it (we used 6 inch dots). Start at 25m and fire a string (we did 10 rounds) into the exact center of the target. Then move to 15m and repeat with the next target. Then move to 1m and fire into the final target. Make sure you keep your aim dead center on all three.

When you do this, you get an idea of the offset between the sights and the bore axis of the rifle. Really important when shooting at small targets at close range.

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Posted: October 25 2017 at 5:48am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

After the past few days, I'm done with scopes and red dots. Tried to get the scope right on this little pest popper but it ain't happenin'. Same with the red dot contraption. Can't zero this weapon for nuthin' except with iron sights. So I'll just stick with what I'm good with. Scopes? We don't need no stinkin' scopes! Think I need a red dot like I need Hillary to give me advice on e-mail storage. We're strictly old school here in Ranger country.

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KinleyWater wrote:
Interesting to read this. When I carried a rifle
a bit smaller than this for work, we had the optic and iron sights set
to co-witness.


That is exactly how I have mine setup.   It's nice to have this in case
the red dot should die while in use.     I thought it was one of the
best features I'd ever seen on a gun.

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Found my boo-boo with the scope.
I was trying to use the single holed base that fits the
carrying handle to seat and lock the scope in place.
Wrong! I detached the carrying handle sight and mounted
the scope to the rail with some super stout rings/base.
Boom! Instant success! Figured I'd get away with the
attachment rail atop the carrying handle, but turned out
it wobbles. Boy, do I feel stupid!

With the little 1.25x-4x-28mm mildot scope in place, I
managed single hole 50m accuracy and 1moa at 100m. My
goodness, this thing shoots far better than me that's for
sure. I'm gonna leave the ole '06 at home and hunt
with my M4 clone. And to think for 40 years I hated
these weapons.

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Posted: November 12 2017 at 12:49pm | IP Logged Quote Buffalogun

Old Ranger wrote:
Found my boo-boo with the scope.

And to think for 40 years I hated
these weapons.


I thought you hated scopes!

Some days its better to just stay on the reservation!

You would be well served with a brass catcher. It'll pay for itself.


Mike

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Posted: November 13 2017 at 7:17am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Well Mike, I do not like scopes for the most part. Like
they've got no business on a levergun. Foolish on a .22.
And looks, and is, out of place on a handgun. And another
gizmo waiting to mess up attached to a battle rifle.
Other than that I guess scopes are ok. My main beef is
that in today's shooting community everyone believes they
have to have a scope or they can't shoot. It's a crutch.
An excuse. An Easy Button for everyone not to learn basic
marksmanship with iron sights. In fact firearm optics are
really big business with a huge markup on them. But not
for me. I got one rifle that has to use a scope as it has
no iron sights on it from the factory. Otherwise, it
wouldn't have a scope on it most of the time.

With this AR15 carbine, I shoot 2" to 2 1/2" groups at
100m with open battle sights. With the small 1.5x-4x
scope [properly attached] it will shoot under an inch at
the same range. Naturally, for precision shooting, the
scope is useful. But for day to day travel, brush hunting
of hogs and such where I live, a scope is a genuine
hindrance. Slow target acquisition. Magnification only
making it worse. And the very worst part, blocking and
reducing overall vision of the surrounding area can be
fatal with hostile target(s) be they man or beast. But
other than that scopes are just dandy.

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