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RB in GA
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Posted: October 28 2017 at 4:43pm | IP Logged Quote RB in GA

Old Ranger wrote:
I trust a progressive loader about as much as I do anyone named Clinton.


Come to think of it... The most popular progressive reloader is painted BLUE?   

Edited by RB in GA on October 28 2017 at 4:45pm
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Hey, I like synthetic stocks.    The rifles I have them on shoot really
well.   I prefer wood but wood always seems to need bedding.

I have 3 wooden stocks, 2 Remingtons and the featherweight.   The
featherweight needed no bedding at all, it shoots. The Remingtons
needed to be bedded as well as the early Winchesters I used to own.


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This rifle, a Winchester Stealth in .308 would amaze you.   Every
shot hits to the POI or within 1/2" of it cold.    One of the last
produced in New Haven.   It's topped with a 36x Weaver for long
distance shooting.



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Posted: October 29 2017 at 7:44am | IP Logged Quote Buffalogun

STCM(SW) wrote:
That is why I still use a single stage RCBS loader.
Then again, I have a lot of time on hand now.
Double, triple check my loads for handguns and rifles...


Me too, MC, me too!



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Posted: October 29 2017 at 8:29am | IP Logged Quote John P.

I had one squib load ever which occurred years ago. I was loading 5
grains Unique/158 SWC on a Lee Pro 1000. It was the first shot in a
new to me 3.5 inch S&W model 27. I think I short stroked the press
because I never got the double charge of the "powder bridging" theory.
It did teach me an important lesson in progressive reloading.

I don't use the Lee Progressive, and have moved to an RCBS Pro 2000
manual and a Dillon 550B. I feel the most important thing with all
progressives is NEVER try to achieve the advertised rate of production.
I look into every case after charging, and I advance the shell plate
before adding primers or powder to the hopper when needed. Then I
check again. If I have a malfunction, I clear the shell plate completely
and start over.

This OCD like behavior while loading slows my production rate on the
550 from the advertised 400-500 rounds per hour to 200 which is plenty
for me.

Another mistake is learning to load on a progressive. Everyone that
reloads should start with a good quality single stage to learn the basics.
I still load all my rifle, my top end handgun, and everything I don't have
a progressive conversion kit for on an old Rockchucker.
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Posted: October 29 2017 at 11:56am | IP Logged Quote RB in GA

John P. wrote:
I had one squib load ever which
occurred years ago. I was loading 5
grains Unique/158 SWC on a Lee Pro 1000. It was the
first shot in a
new to me 3.5 inch S&W model 27. I think I short
stroked the press
because I never got the double charge of the "powder
bridging" theory.
It did teach me an important lesson in progressive
reloading.


John P,

25+ years ago I was loading light 38 SWC on a friends
SDB. I had completed a few hundred and starting having
some jam issues. Anyway, I short stroked one and
"probably" threw a squib and or double. Problem was it
was mixed in with 3 to 4 hundred loaded rounds. The load
was something like 3g of Bullseye or W231. I marked the
bag slow fire only due to the potential squib/double.

Since I was shooting them in a 6 inch GP the double was
still well under Max for SWC, but the possible squib was
an issue too. A few days later went to the range with my
suspect bag of ammo. Every trigger pull was like it this
going to be the one?

Here's the goofy part, honest truth, I actually had a
witness (the guy who owned the SDB). I got down to the
last 6 rounds in the bag. I remember telling him, I
guess no squibs. On the last round, 6th in the chamber I
pull the trigger and get a pfffft, stuck in the forcing
cone. This after something like 400 rounds downrange.

Makes you wonder...

BTW, that was my last adventure with a progressive
press. I have Single Staged and flash lighted every
powder charge since.



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Posted: October 29 2017 at 2:51pm | IP Logged Quote Rifleman 52

RB   in   GA,         
.Last one in your bag, I believe it because I'am a
reloader myself and any thing is possible. Now here's
my story, my friend and I have Ruger Vaqueros 44-40
cal. Ammo was very expensive in 1997 so we decided to
become reloaders. $30.00 for 50 rnd box. We set up with
Lyman 6-stage turret press. We use lyman #55 powder
measure and Unique Powder. But we only check every 5
fifth rnd. We load 300 to 400 rnds and go shooting. I
always got 2 or 3 squibs and my buddy never got any at
all what so ever. Why did I catch all the squibs and my
buddy didn't. But since we were new to reloading we had
never lubed the #55 powder scale. Since then My friend
Old Ranger set me straight on how to lube the Lyman #55
Powder Measure and things now work great. Thanks again
Wade, now I don't have to trickle scale every
rnd......... chris

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Posted: October 29 2017 at 4:30pm | IP Logged Quote RB in GA

Rifleman 52 wrote:
RB in GA,         
Last one in your bag, I believe it because I'am a
reloader myself and any thing is possible. Now here's
my story, my friend and I have Ruger Vaqueros 44-40
cal...


I've never experienced anything reloading as the "last in
the bag" before or after... But, I've seen some things
that are pretty hard to explain.

If you are a Single Stager and you are getting ready to
seat and crimp, you probably do like me or most and reach
into a box of 1000+ bulk slugs and pull out "enough" to
seat what you have in your loading tray(s) 50-100. We all
know it's easier to pick-em up off a towel than did in a
big-ole card board box and grab one at a time. This is
where it get a little weird. I pull what I estimate is
100+ from the box. On more times than I can admit to I
pull out exactly 100. Not 99 not 101.

When my grown son was young (see Avitar) he would look at
me like I was some kind of Wizard. BTW, that's his 1st
deer on a Parent-Child hunt on a local WMA. He loaded the
round 21g IMR4227 under a 240 Hard Cast, etched in my
memory.



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Posted: October 29 2017 at 7:00pm | IP Logged Quote Rifleman 52

RB in GA, I can grab 50 slugs about 33 % of the time. I
put them in plastic lid that comes with Lee dies. I seat
them than I factory crimp them. I remember both deer for
both of my boys when they shot them. It's always good to
look like a wizard in front of your son. Since I started
reloading by my self (2004), I haven't had a squib (knock
on wood).
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Posted: October 29 2017 at 9:52pm | IP Logged Quote RB in GA

Rifleman 52 wrote:
RB in GA, I can grab 50 slugs about 33 % of the time. I
put them in plastic lid that comes with Lee dies. I seat
them than I factory crimp them. I remember both deer for
both of my boys when they shot them. It's always good to
look like a wizard in front of your son. Since I started
reloading by my self (2004), I haven't had a squib (knock
on wood).


R52,

At lot of people don't understand.

I remember both deer for both of my boys when they shot them.

I understand exactly... Let me explain.

When you take your young out hunting and make it a priority for them it is special. Our local WMA (Oaky Woods) had a Parent/Child week that started about the time my Son was 13. The hunt started about 2 weeks before regular gun season. I would pick me son up after school and we would race out to the WMA for a couple of hours before dark.

The afternoon he shot his "Trophy" 4pt. we were sitting in a bottom on the ground being pelted by white oak acorns. I heard one coming and told him to get ready, off safety, hammer back (1894 Marlin). The buck came quartering at less than 15 feet. I'm sitting 2 feet from him and he didn't shoot. I look at him and whisper shooooooot. He wouldn't shoot because I taught him to wait until fully broadside. Finally BOOOOM at less than 5 feet. Deer runs maybe 25 yards out of sight. He looks at me, still shaking and said I missed. As John Wayne so appropriately said... "Not Hardly."

Without a doubt the best hunt of my life.

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Posted: October 31 2017 at 2:38pm | IP Logged Quote Rifleman 52

RB in GA, Their weren't any youth hunts when my boys were
young. they had to wait till they were 14 yrs old to hunt
rifle. My second oldest Scott shot his first 6 pt with
30-06 pump. So he walks 3/4 mile to find Dad, wants me to
show him how to gut his Buck. Like you say, I remember it
like was yesterday. Oldest son Chris got his with 7-MM-
Mag, he just showed up at camp with nice 4-pt opening
day. Our buck pole had 5 nice Bucks that day, I'am a
happy man.
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Posted: November 07 2017 at 1:31am | IP Logged Quote REM1875

For what it's worth we wrecked a barrel on a rather
expensive 45 acp semi auto carbine with 2 squib loads we
did not hear or feel. That seemed to be the end of our
progressive reloading mania.
I think things might have been different out of a
revolver or pistol.....

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