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Posted: October 24 2017 at 9:03am | IP Logged Quote M700



Unless someone talks me into going elk hunting, I'm done with deer season, and unlikely to do any more big game hunting this year.

I am however, eager to renew my war on coyotes! And will of course be carrying my cougar tag, just in case that possibility comes up...

I've been a little lax in my coyote war in recent years. They're death & destruction on MY mule deer herd, so I do like to thin 'em out.

Normally I one of several scoped rifles:
25-06 Rem 700 CDL, 6x Leupold, 115 gr Berger or Nosler
223 Bushmaster AR-15, 1.5-4x Leupold, various 55 gr soft points
204 Ruger, CZ varmint rifle with 12x Leupold & 35 gr Bergers. I think I might pop a 6x scope on it for this winter

But I really want to haul out this 1913 vintage 22 Hi Power Savage 99 this season. I've got some 70 grain soft point factory ammo, and have some handloads available as well. Accuracy is "okay" but not great. This is a take-down model and the barrel to receiver connection is via rather coarse threads. Not the tightest fitted rifle by any means!

It's pictured above with ammo from Canada (CIL) and Europe (Norma) because it's still in some use in those places, while factory ammo hasn't been produced for it in quite some time here in the USA.

Of course if you know of some... Please let me know!

It takes an oddball .228" bullet, and prefers shorter bullets. The 70 grain factory bullet has a fairly blunt, roundish nose. Bullets in .228" diameter are difficult to obtain.

Following some info I got, I've started messing with .224" jacketed bullets and... By golly, they work! Rather well too. This surprised me, and pleased me, as there are of course a mess of good .224" diameter bullets available.

Oh, there's a coyote rug (60" from nose to tail!) and a wolf skull in the photo. I thought those were appropriate.

So - stand by for further adventures with the old Savage as fall & winter progress!

Guy
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Posted: October 24 2017 at 2:47pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Guy, I'm impressed! Tang sights and factory iron.

Go get them wood-puppies!

I'll give you a Ranger Hoo-ah! in advance!

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Posted: October 24 2017 at 3:49pm | IP Logged Quote STCM(SW)

Nice setup Guy!
I would like to take on some Yotes but never see them, Same with the cats.
And I have a call that should work on both.
My 220 Swift would work on both I think.
Froze my rear off this morning deer hunting.
25 degrees @ 07:00, didn't reach 30 till after 09:00 and I was not dressed for it.
As I get older the cold weather seems to get to me faster....
Never saw anything but Quail, chipmunks and blue jays.

Edited by STCM(SW) on October 24 2017 at 4:03pm


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Posted: October 24 2017 at 4:23pm | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

I have a .22 High Power I need to work with more. Bullet selection is a problem. Hornady is the most common and not a real good one.

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Posted: October 24 2017 at 4:34pm | IP Logged Quote hoghunter

I'm in no way an expert yote hunter but I've done quite a
bit of it. They are plentiful here in PA.

Rifles: I've shot a few with the 223 Rem pushing 55 grain
Noslers. It does the job well enough but my favorite is
the 243 pushing the 85 Sierra BTHP. This bullet puts them
down even with a less than idea shot.

Calls: I have primo's electronic call. It's has limited
calls but it a remote call so I can set it up a 100 yards
away from my stand. I've had a lot of success calling in
Foxes but yotes are much more difficult.

Wind: Is a major factor when hunting yotes so much so I
avoid going out on windy days.

The really successful yote hunters here hunt them at
night. I don't so I'm a lot less successful.
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Posted: October 24 2017 at 5:17pm | IP Logged Quote M700

Hoghunter - you like that .243 with the 85 gr bullet for the same reason I like using my 25-06 with the 115 hollow point, it puts 'em down hard!
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Posted: October 24 2017 at 5:21pm | IP Logged Quote Ranch 13

J&G sales carries brand new Seller a Beloit ammo and brass for the High-
power, and the factory stuff shoots pretty decent.
.224 bullets work a bit better than one might think in the cartridge.


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Posted: October 24 2017 at 7:28pm | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

Ranch 13 wrote:
J&G sales carries brand new Seller a Beloit ammo and brass for the High-
power, and the factory stuff shoots pretty decent.
.224 bullets work a bit better than one might think in the cartridge.


I've heard that. Does that require a change in expander plug in your dies? Does the undersized bullet cause faster barrel erosion?

I bought a box of Sellier and Belot ammo someplace, haven't shot it yet. It's a very intriguing cartridge.

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Posted: October 24 2017 at 7:30pm | IP Logged Quote Ranch 13

Don't have enough experience with the .224 bullets to speak on the barrel
erosion, but a gun writer friend of mine is the one that turned us on to the
.224's and he hasn't mentioned any problems.


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Posted: October 25 2017 at 3:28am | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

Good to know. I occasionally hang out on the Savage collector forum on 24 hour camp fire and there are some seriously knowledgeable Savage aficianados on there. I know there are better bullets than the Hornady ones out there. One day, I'll take mine deer hunting just to same I have, but I'll probably just buy a box of the S&B stuff when I do.

I know I'm kind of hung up on cast, but I have a Lyman 225415 mold that casts over sized like a lot of them do and it is what most of my shooting with mine has been with. I love 99s, have several and want one of every type they made, LOL. The .22 HP I have isn't really colletor grade at all, but a cool rifle.

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Posted: October 25 2017 at 7:22am | IP Logged Quote Ranch 13

They are very cool rifles. The nice thing about the hi power is you can make
cases from 30-30 or 25-35's I think.

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Posted: October 25 2017 at 7:49am | IP Logged Quote M700

Nosler made a .224" 60 grain Partition with a soft point. Partition bullets have an exposed lead base, and I wonder if that might "bump up" a bit, on firing? Perhaps shooting a little better?

That would be a good bullet if I were to encounter a big ol' mountain lion while carrying the .22 Hi Power!

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I just bought a batch of new .25-35 brass and one run through a full length sizer yielded .22 high power brass. I'm sure it could be done with .30-30, but looks like it would be a lot more work.

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M700 wrote:
Nosler made a .224" 60 grain Partition with
a soft point. Partition bullets have an exposed lead
base, and I wonder if that might "bump up" a bit, on
firing? Perhaps shooting a little better?

That would be a good bullet if I were to encounter a big
ol' mountain lion while carrying the .22 Hi Power!

Guy


The Partition are designed for penetration and expansion
so I would think would be a good choice on a large
animal.
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Posted: October 25 2017 at 5:40pm | IP Logged Quote M700

Ya, I've used Partitions since the mid 1970's. Not all the time, but always knowing that they perform well on game.

I like the rapid expansion of the front portion, coupled with that rear chunk of bullet punching on through.

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Winchester has a 64 gr. powerpoint bullet that ought to work like a champ in
the HiPower. If the rifles bore is good.



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