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Posted: November 11 2017 at 11:37am | IP Logged Quote Kosh75287

I noticed that GIBrass.com has 5# canisters of new powder, designated "BR-5", which appears to load with data for Unique. I haven't tried any of it, but I'm tempted. Has anyone on here tried it/heard about it?

Thanks in Advance.
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Posted: November 13 2017 at 8:49am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Mercy me, there's so many powders out there now it makes
my head spin just trying to follow-up on a fraction of
them. Never heard of that one either. Hopefully, someone
here has and can help you out. But I'll bet 95% of us
will be baffled like me.

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Add me to that 95%.

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Posted: November 13 2017 at 7:37pm | IP Logged Quote RT58

I've never used it nor heard of it either.

I did a web search and found a few mentions of it. In one a poster said he thinks it is Lovex D036-03 which is made by Explosia. You can find loading data in PDF form at the Lovex web site. It also happens that Lovex sells their D036-03 powder to Shooters World and is packaged by them as their brand name of "Auto Pistol" powder. They have their own PDF data which is according to SAAMI specs and which I would think would be easier to compare to Unique data. Lovex data is according to CIP specs.

GIBrass.com might be able to confirm or deny that for you too.

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Posted: November 14 2017 at 11:54am | IP Logged Quote mikld

I be baffled too! Bartletts sells some too and has a description;
http://www.gibrass.com/gunpowder.html   (is Bartlett's the same
as gibrass?).

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If you are going to pay HazMat/Shipping why bother with a
UNIQUE LIKE powder when you can order and 8 lb jug of the
REAL thing UNIQUE from Powder Valley (In Stock) for the
same price.

ALLUNI-08     ALLIANT UNIQUE -   8   LB. Yes  $132.95     
   
Appropriately $16.50/lb plus HazMat and Shipping.

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Posted: November 15 2017 at 8:00am | IP Logged Quote Ham Gunner

No, Jeff Bartlett is a different entity than GIBrass. Jeff sells it 6lb. for $100. Plus hazmat fee. He shares 1/2 the fee if you order six jugs.

I have used a bit of it and I like it a lot. It does give about the same performance as Unique with around the same weight charge. The powder is a bit smaller (more like Win 231/HP-38) and takes up less case capacity than Unique.

It was apparently the military powder of choice for the 9mm.

I use it in my .44 Spec. Bulldog and it seems to be slightly more accurate than Unique and a whole lot cleaner burning. I would expect it to work as a Unique replacement in most of the rounds that one would use Unique powder. But of course, work up the loads.

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Posted: November 16 2017 at 7:10am | IP Logged Quote Ham Gunner

Well, I just attempted to go to my old GI Brass.com site and it took me to Jeff Bartlett's site so I guess they are now the same. Used to be separate sites.


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Posted: November 19 2017 at 11:18am | IP Logged Quote Kosh75287

HAMGUNNER, thanks for the input on the BR-5 powder!
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Posted: March 10 2018 at 9:33am | IP Logged Quote icarryagun

I use BR-5 for a lot of loads. It is my "goto" powder for 9mm.
Data comes with the powder. I currently use Berry's 115gr RN flat base
at the maximum weight with a slightly longer OAL than listed with great
results.
Cycles in everything from my G43 to my G17L.
Great powder!

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Since taking possession of my Dad's stash of loading stuff, I think I'm set with the Unique, 700X and a few others I have for a very long time, but it's good to know there's stuff out there.

I tend to subscribe to Oldranger's thoughts; if you can't do it with Unique, Bullseye or 2400, I doubt you'll get it done with anything, at least in handguns. I actually use those three if more than a few rifle loads as well.

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For surplus powders I usually don't mess
with anything except surplus 50-BMG
powders unless it's even a better price
the usual for surplus powder and its burn
rate is something I can make use of.

Basically I consider anything faster
burning then 50-BMG powders to be a risk
if the exact properties of the powder
aren't known. Yeah, I've got a pressure
trace system so I can actually measure the
pressure curves and work up safe loads but
that first load where you are totally
shooting in the dark is still always a
risk.

On the other hand something as slow as 50-
BMG (or 20mm Vulcan) surplus powders a
full case compressed load in most common
full power and magnum rifle cartridges
won't get you in trouble. Not enough room
in the case to fit enough powder to create
too high of pressure and secondary
detonations don't happen in full case
compressed loads so no worries of not
putting enough powder in and having that
happen on the other end of the spectrum.

Worst that can happen is have a weak
initial load with too much unburned powder
left in the bore and then have to make
duplex loads with a couple grains of
starter powder in the bottom of the case
on top of the primer.

Where as with faster burning surplus
powders like some Israeli ball powder I
picked up a few years back that they said
was close to Accurate#9 powder that first
test load or two where your trying to
start not too high and also not too low
and run the risk of a secondary detonation
it's hard on my nerves. And I've got
pressure trace equipment which not
everyone has who messes around with these
surplus powders has.

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