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Posted: 02 December 2017 at 4:48am | IP Logged Quote CDE

Just finishing loading up the last of the 170
jhp that I have. Which does everyone like
better 170 or 210 & why? I cast 215 lead for
plinking and such but also like some jhp. My
favorite powders are Accurate 9, H110/296,
Longshot, Clays. My pistols are a Taurus
Tracker & Ruger Blackhawk.

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Posted: 02 December 2017 at 5:20am | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

I used to have a desert eagle in 41 mag that I dearly loved and the company said to use 009 powder as it created a lot of gas that the eagles needed to run. I never had any trouble except with a 357 mag eagle that had to have #9 to cycle correctly. I am having trouble finding the 170g jhp but I think they can be ordered. I use them in 41AE also but either will work. Craig

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I never met a .41 bullet I didn't like. Unfortunately they keep disappearing.
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The 170's really shoot good, but they are a
lot harder to find then 210's


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The only source I know of that makes the 170s is Sierra, there might be more but I quit shooting jacketed handgun bullets after I retired, what I have left is on hold for have to situations.

Talking to others on the internet it seems most people prefer the Hornady XTP bullets for the .41 magnum. I think it's because of the way their Lee dies mangle jacketed bullets with exposed lead noses, but that's just my opinion, since I've tried the Lee dies. Anyway, due to the "supply and demand" way retail works, if people aren't buying as much the dealers won't order as much so the manufacturers won't make as much. You will probably have to ask your dealer to order them for you.
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The .41 is a good cartridge that just came at the wrong time.   It
showed up as LE was switching to autos and didn't get a fair shake.

When I had the casting business people kept asking me to do the .41
and reluctantly I did.   I doubt I sold 1k of business for that cartridge.   
That tells me there aren't a lot of guns in this caliber out there or no
one is shooting them.

Sounds like the bullet companies are seeing the same situation.

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The .41 mag is my favorite handgun caliber, not that it's that much better than anything else, I just like it.

I think S&W never intended it to go anywhere, they just didn't want Colt to come out with their own .40-.41 cal. At first there were several nice jacketed bullets available and a very good selection of moulds for lead bullets. Since it never caught on with the shooting crowd it turned into a labor of love for handloaders. The real beauty in it comes from the fact that it can be loaded to do just about anything you want with the right bullet. Just like a .44 mag., but when the .44 mag. became "the gun to own" after the Dirty Harry movies, the .41 mags were easy to find and a good deal cheaper in price.

There was a local PD that carried it but they eventually went back to .357s. The officers didn't like the N frame 58's they were issued and qualification scores dropped. I'm not sure which load they were issued. There was a captain on another PD that carried one but he was using the 210 jacketed soft point loads which were pretty stout and he didn't carry it for long. I carried a few different models over the years using SWC lead or Winchester Silvertips and really liked it.
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Leadhead sells a 230 gr Keith that looks alot like the one LAH used to sell. I have had success with LAH's version. Somewhere between 16 and 18 grs of AA#9 works well. Oh, and that bullet is too long for the Tracker. I had to cut some cases down to make them work in it. Check this out: 230 Keith

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I still have my .41 cal Keith mold.   I think it's 215 or 220 gr but can't
remember who made it for me.

About 6 years ago I came very close to buying a 4" 657 at one of the
shows. I'm glad I didn't buy it.   Not that I have anything against the
.41 but if you have a .44 Mag you don't need the .41 mag.   And I
have to tell you I'm nuts about the .44.

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I looked for a good, used 4" 657 for a long time, I don't recall ever seeing one new or used. I guess they weren't popular in the tri-state area.

I did find a 4" 629 and bought it though. I have both .41 and .44 mags because I didn't buy firearms based on need, I just liked to shoot and load ammunition.
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joed wrote:
I still have my .41 cal Keith mold.   I think it's 215 or 220 gr but can't
remember who made it for me.

About 6 years ago I came very close to buying a 4" 657 at one of the
shows. I'm glad I didn't buy it.   Not that I have anything against the
.41 but if you have a .44 Mag you don't need the .41 mag.   And I
have to tell you I'm nuts about the .44.

Hey Joe. Check your PM

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Posted: 12 December 2017 at 10:38am | IP Logged Quote Desertrat

My Model 57 and my 2 Ruger Blackhawks love the 170's....I have probably loaded more of them than
any weight in the .41 cal.

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