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Posted: December 11 2017 at 10:29pm | IP Logged Quote M700

This afternoon the dog and I took our Jeep and our Glenfield up into the hills. We did a little informal sight-in session, since the 30-30 Glenfield had just taken on a new Williams receiver sight.

When I ordered the sight from Brownells, I forgot that the newer Marlins/Remlins weren't drilled & tapped on the side of the receiver, so the first sight I found that fit a 336, I ordered. It fits the top two holes on the receiver. Not quite what I had in mind, but okay.. That might work. I installed the sight in about two shakes of a lambs tail. But my gunsmith buddy had to free up one of the set screws, after I'd let it soak in Kroil for two days.

I've had Williams receiver sights on a Win 94 30-30, a 30-30 Marlin 336, and a 45-70 Marlin 1895. I like them. Long ago Dad had a .22 Marlin 39M, and I think that rifle has a Lyman receiver sight. Might be a Williams, not sure. Been a while since I've seen that cool little rifle.

I might get around to removing the factory rear sight from the barrel. It doesn't really bother me, but my sight picture would be better without it. After installing the sight and getting my friend to free up that set-screw we headed into the hills for a very informal shooting session. Just didn't feel like going to the gun club today.

With no adjustments the first three shots printed here, holding dead-center at 25 paces, from standing:


I also shot at a rock pile, 110 paces away, and had no trouble hitting a rock smaller than a deer's vital area with 170 gr Remington soft-point ammo.

It's not your eyes - the photo is blurry:


Top-attach version of the Williams... Not what I thought I ordered, but it works. Much as I like that little 2.5x Leupold, and I do like it a lot. The rifle feels better to me this way:




Interesting drive up the canyon today:


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Posted: December 11 2017 at 11:17pm | IP Logged Quote rednekpaul

Looks like you killed that tree Those informal shooting sessions can be a lot of fun!
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Posted: December 11 2017 at 11:20pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

What's a scope?

Looking good Guy!

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Posted: December 11 2017 at 11:30pm | IP Logged Quote M700

Hah! Ya, after my strong defense of scopes, I though this was pretty funny.

But I really am enjoying returning a few of my rifles to sights-only rifles.

I've got other rifles, with scopes, for those hunting scenarios that require a scope. In the meantime, my lever action rifles sure look and handle nice without the scopes.

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Posted: December 12 2017 at 4:51am | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

We put one of those newer Williams that attach via to scope holes on my oldest son's old Marlin and it works great. His needed a taller front sight to get it to hit to point of aim, no biggie.

I can shoot much better with a peep than any kind of open sights. In good light on a range up to a certain distance, they don't give up much to scopes, but in the field, scopes have some clear advantages.

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Posted: December 12 2017 at 5:07am | IP Logged Quote JD45

I wish I could find the exact model you have.

I really like the half magazine ones.
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Posted: December 12 2017 at 9:19am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Guess you felt that nudge in the ribs with the grin huh?
All in fun amigo.
You did good there Guy.
Weapon reeks of class and cool now!

When my other neighbor got a 336 youth model (he's 6'2" &
290#) he instantly began to whine about the factory
sights. I went inside and came back out with a
screwdriver and a set of Williams 5D receiver sights.
Whining ceased and his little rifle didn't "need" a scope
afterall. I just said "You're welcome. Merry Christmas."
Yet another levergun saved from the "Mustache on Mona
Lisa Syndrome". Of course it still looks like a trained
bear holding a BB gun, but he bought the little gun
because it was on sale and cheap! But hey, his idea of
length of pull is how far he can sit from the table and
still reach for a drumstick!

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Posted: December 12 2017 at 11:21am | IP Logged Quote Abram

I like it, that's a nice looking rifle as well.
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Posted: December 12 2017 at 12:35pm | IP Logged Quote The_Shadow

Very nice Guy!

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Posted: December 13 2017 at 8:45am | IP Logged Quote twillis

Guy, what's the barrel length on your Glenfield?

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Posted: December 14 2017 at 1:35am | IP Logged Quote Slick

I've always resisted putting scopes on any of my leverguns as it just doesn't seem right to me. I'm a big fan of the Williams peeps on my levers, especially when teamed up with a Lymann globe up front. My old eyes work so much better with an aperture than U-notch sights.

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Posted: December 14 2017 at 4:28am | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

You guys are making me feel guilty, guess I'm gonna have to snatch that vintage Weaver off my .32 Special. The rifle was drilled when I got it, which I hate as it's an old waffle top, but I didn't have a proper receiver sight that would work at the time and did have a period correct scope.

I have become much more of a lever gun aficionado in the past few years and they have pretty rapidly replaced the bolt guns as my primary shooters and hunting rifles. Lots of fun.

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Posted: December 14 2017 at 7:07am | IP Logged Quote twillis

I have 5 leverguns. 4 of them are for Cowboy Silhouette. My Marlin 336A and 39A have Williams FPs on them. Another 22 lever made by Mossberg but branded as Revelation also has a FP on it. My 1894 Cowboy has a Marbles tang sight on it. The levergun I hunt with is a 1895 45/70 and has a 2X7 Burris scope on it.

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Posted: December 14 2017 at 8:01am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Rich, in order to avoid the "Mustache on the Mona Lisa
Syndrome" I strongly advise to remove the scope and get a
Williams receiver sight for that .32Spl. It will cleanse
the rifle's spirit and not embarrass it in front of the
other rifles.

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Posted: December 14 2017 at 3:52pm | IP Logged Quote Paul B.

The 30-30 is my fun gun cartridge. I do have a few. Two M94's, one
from 1911 (My Great-granfather's gun which I killed my first deer with
at age 11.) another made around 1980, two Winchester M64's (a gun I
like a lot better than the M94.) one from 1938, the other from 1951.
What a difference in quality. The 1980 M94 has a receiver sight. The
last two are a Marlin 336 "Texan" which is scoped and a Winchester
M54 that came with a factory installed Redfield receiver sight.
All these guns are used these day strictly for fun using my home made
cast bullets. I know someone will ask so I'll just answer right now. Yes, I
have hunted with cast bullets, usually the Lyman #311291. I've taken
15 deer with that bullet. I have also taken two deer with the RCBS #30-
180-FN which weighs out at 191 gr. in my alloy. Does a neat job of
duplicating the old .303 Savage. As a matter of fact, I bought the
RCBS mold to feed an old M99 Savage in ,303 a long time ago. Sold
the gun, kept the dies and the mold. Works just fine in the old dirty
thirty.
If you can find a copy, get Sam Fadala's book "Winchester 30-30
Model 94". I met him one time at a gun show. Hell of a nice guy.
Anyway, he buys at great expense Winchester .303 Sav. ammo just to
pull those 190 gr. Silvertips to load in his 30-30. Sells the brass to get
some of his money back. He and I agree that Winchester made a big
mistake not putting that bullet in the 30-30.After the first of the year I'll
buy a new casting pot. I've had two Lyman's fry on me, once while
casting and the other with a big flash and loud bang when I turned it
on. Scared hell out of me. Opened it up and every wire inside had
melted. WOW!
On 30-30 ammo, a K-Mart was doing a liquidation sale and I lucked in
27 boxes of 170 gr. Winchester Power Points for $4.00 a box plus tax.
Shooting so much cast I still have those 27 boxes.
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I've killed an average of two deer per year for the past 20 years and haven't used a jacketed bullet since 2009. Three were with broadheads and a couple with cast in muzzle loaders (no trick there) and one with a .45-70 (no trick there either) but most were with .30s, .32 or .35 caliber rifles. They work fine if you know what you're doing.

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twillis wrote:
Guy, what's the barrel length on your Glenfield?


It's the standard 20" barrel.

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Posted: December 15 2017 at 6:07am | IP Logged Quote M700

BTW - I do have a few hundred cast bullets for it, and intend to start loading with those, this winter. Should be fun for plinking, if nothing else.

Have always handloaded 170 gr jacketed bullets for the 30-30 in the past, but some buddies of mine talked me into trying cast. They do a lot of shooting at steel gongs with their cast bullet loads, to some pretty impressive distances. Sounds fun, thought I'd give it a try.

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M700 wrote:
twillis wrote:
Guy, what's the barrel length on your Glenfield?


It's the standard 20" barrel.

Guy


It kind of looked like my 336A with a 24" barrel is why I asked. That longer barrel is nice for 200 meter Rams in Silhouette. Quite a few silhouette shooters use cast bullets to good effect.

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