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Posted: January 13 2018 at 2:59pm | IP Logged Quote rich2

Yep. The info you provided tells me what I need to know. The dimensions you measured tell me that they are not a Sinterfire bullet but one of our competitors since the pieces you found after you hit it with a hammer tell me they are of a similar make up. However, I will try to help you the best I can.

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Posted: January 13 2018 at 4:09pm | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

Yeah I didn't see any at Sinterfire that looked like a hollow point. I would like to know if these should be loaded up closer to max or is lighter OK? I am starting at 6.0g power pistol with Alliants site at 6.7 max for 115g bullet and I am lighter at 100g?

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An important thing to remember with light frangible bullets is oal length. They are generally longer than lead. This will reduce case capacity, when loaded to the same length as a lead bullet of the same weight or heavier, leading to higher pressures. So, the same precautions should be in place as always. Start low and slowly work up to a load that will function reliably. (I generally load only two or three rounds at a time.) But a bigger concern is crimp. Frangible bullets are meant to be just that, *FRANGIBLE*! So, TAPER CRIMP ONLY! The way I do it is to take a hand full of brass cases you are going to use, size them, then mic the oal. Pick out several of the cases with the longest oal. Load a dummy round to the oal you wish to use. Then slowly bring the tapper crimp die down until all the bell has been taken out of the case mouth. Then just a bit further. Say an 1/8 of a turn. Then pull the bullet and check for a "ring" around the bullet where the end of the case mouth was. If you see a "ring" then back off the taper crimp die until you no longer see the ring. Remember, TAPER CRIMP ONLY! I hope I was able to help. If all this sounds complicated, it really isn't at all. I've loaded many tens of thousands of frangible bullets. As to the powder you want to use, I'd try the lightest load listed for a 115 gr. lead as a place to safely start and work your way up from there. Let me know if this helps.

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Posted: January 14 2018 at 8:47am | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

It's really what I was going to do but it is good to hear you agree. I have been taper crimping on all straight wall cases for several years and have liked the outcome. Thank you for the input and I am going to start light looking for a light load anyway. Thanks again.    Craig

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Posted: January 19 2018 at 8:36am | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

Loaded 10 at 6.0g power pistol and today I loaded 10 at 6.3. Will shoot as soon as as I can. Craig

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Posted: January 19 2018 at 12:51pm | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

Back from the range and I find this interesting! Both loads had serious failure to feed issues. I need to really bring up the load to work I feel. I think I will try 6.5 next then go to 6.7 witch is max for 115g but I am using 100g so it should be OK and really higher if I need to. I think 6.5 will be OK as the rounds shot OK just wouldn't feed the next round always. Craig

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Posted: January 19 2018 at 2:09pm | IP Logged Quote rich2

You *may* have to tinker with the oal. I load my 100 gr frangible 9mm at 1.120" cartridge oal. and have no problems feeding in any of my 9's. But YMMV.....

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Posted: January 20 2018 at 11:46am | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

OK rich I just remeasured everything and here are the numbers on the COL on the 6.0g rounds were 1.07 on the 6.3 rounds it was 1.06 and the 115g 6.3 rounds i brought and shot great were 1.14. Hope this tells you something. Also the 6.0 and 6.3 100g frangible seemed light to shoot. I know I can safely move up with these rounds. BTW all of my 9mm rounds ended up on the light side as I shoot them better as I like light rounds in general. Craig

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I would say to bump the oal up to 1.120" and slowly increase your load by a tenth or two at a time until the gun functions. Keep a sharp eye out for any pressure signs

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Posted: January 23 2018 at 10:04am | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

Yeah but if I go too far with the COL I will need to increase the powder anyway. I will start at 6.5 and put the COL at 1.12 or so. Thanks for the input. Craig

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Posted: February 08 2018 at 12:56pm | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

OK just loaded up some of these 100g frangible with the power pistol, did 20 at 6.5 grain that I think will work OK. Did 20 more with 6.7 grains witch is the max for the 115 grain bullets as there is no data for 100g. Just to make sure something works I want to load 20 with something like 6.9 grains as there is 15g difference between 100g and 115g bullet weight. I hope I don't blow something up. HE He. Craig

Just edited to say all COL is at 1.12

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I load 6.6gr. of Power Pistol with a 115gr. Bad man coated bullet that is my standard loading and have shot many thousands of them they work great in our Walther PPS gen2 good luck I like Power Pistol. Randy
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Posted: February 08 2018 at 3:04pm | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

Hey Randy I also load 115g jhp with 6.3 a light load with power pistol and have been loading it for 15 years or so. Thanks for the input. Craig

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Well I did all the frangible I could do without testing due to weather. Ended up loading a few 124g HST 9mm bullets i had laying around. Bored out of my mind. I just don't need anymore rounds without shooting some. Any ideas????   Craig

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