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Posted: January 13 2018 at 4:04pm | IP Logged Quote hdwhit

Okay, I know that in most states that I am familiar with, beaver cannot be hunted with firearms; they must be trapped or left to a governmental animal control agency.

I own (but do not operate) a catfish farm that is impounded by a state-licensed dam so I (along with the operator) are permitted to harvest beaver and similar "nuisance animals" by trap or firearm without respect to any hunting season.

Until recently, my father has been the operator of the farm and he has used body traps to control nuisance animals. The problem with this is that the body traps often mortally injure, but do not kill the animal so it must be euthanized. I would prefer to avoid this. Both to eliminate the potential danger to my grandchildren when they visit as well as the ethics of leaving an animal in pain in a trap.

One of my degrees is in agricultural engineering and I know from my studies that beaver respond to the flow of water and can be deceived into coming out of the water to stop the streamflow. At that point, it seems to me they would be vulnerable to a near-instant kill via a head shot.

The distance from a protected shooting position to the spillway where the beavers would be trying to stop the water flow is 185 meters. I can, with appropriate optics, put a shot into a 2.75 inch target (average size of a beaver head) from that distance 90+% of the time.

Would it be ethical and humane to start taking beaver via head shots rather than using body traps?

   
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Posted: January 13 2018 at 6:53pm | IP Logged Quote KinleyWater

Seems to me that ethics is a matter of comparison. Let me ask this: Is trapping and then euthanizing them more ethical than just shooting them?

Assuming, of course, that you do, in fact, posses the requisite skill.

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Posted: January 14 2018 at 6:20am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

I'm curious as to how a beaver is a threat. What? They're
having catfish lunches? Seriously, what are they doing to
your outfit there that warrants extermination?
I can see if it were an invasion of hogs or armadillos
with neither being a native animal and very destructive.
I shoot both on sight, so I'm not some PETA nut. But
what's the beef with beaver?

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Posted: January 14 2018 at 12:19pm | IP Logged Quote Paul B.

I have the same question.
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Posted: January 14 2018 at 5:30pm | IP Logged Quote Ham Gunner

Muskrats can certainly threaten an earthen dam by digging through the bank, but beaver? Perhaps it would just be the blocking of the overflow that could threaten the rupture of the dam at an undesirable point due to overfilling. I can see where they could cause a bit of a problem.

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Posted: January 15 2018 at 7:12am | IP Logged Quote Buffalogun

Maybe its a bacterial thing?


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Posted: January 15 2018 at 10:54am | IP Logged Quote dahlin

Beaver will drag in sticks and brush for there feed bed I think that would make it difficult to use a net for harvesting Cat fish also will dig holes and pile mud and brush for there den would make a mess out of the shore lines, Randy
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Posted: January 15 2018 at 3:58pm | IP Logged Quote M700

Beaver can be a huge nuisance. I know several farmers and ranchers who kill them.

They burrow under roads near streams, sometimes causing collapse.

They build dams and back up water, where no one, except the beaver, wants a pond. They'll also cut water off from somewhere the farmer/rancher is trying to irrigate.

Sometimes beaver can be a real problem.

So, they get trapped and/or shot.

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Posted: January 15 2018 at 4:29pm | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

A few years ago when I was stationed at Fort Sill, they game wardens were trying to reduce the population of them for the reasons Guy mentioned. There aren't really any predators that can get them once they're adults as long as they're close to or in the water.

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Posted: January 16 2018 at 7:32am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Well then by all means destroy them in place! Arm patrol
boats with mounted M60's and plant contact mines near
their A.O. Obliterate every one you see and force any
pitiful survivors onto a beaver reservation!

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Posted: January 16 2018 at 8:10am | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

I actually ate beaver once at a wild game feed, at least they said it was. It was prepared like barbecue pulled pork and was actually pretty good. They have really nice fur too.

We do have them around here, but they don't seem to multiply to the point that they are a problem here. When I was stationed at Sill, there was a small lake that I used to love to bowfish. It was like a lot of small ponds there with a lot of "fingers" of water extending out from the main body and was about perfectly sized in that by the time I made a stalk all the way around it, the fish had calmed down and I could usually find a few I had scared away from the last shot. I went away from Sill for a few years and was back on TDY a few years later and went back to it. Beavers all over the place and they had chewed down every single tree around it. The pond was a mess and the bowfishing wasn't very good anymore.

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Beaver can be quite destructive.    They are coming back to the area
I live in but I haven't seen any.   As Guy mentioned they can create a
dam and put someone's property underwater.

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Posted: January 16 2018 at 6:45pm | IP Logged Quote KinleyWater

Classic!

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