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Posted: February 11 2018 at 8:26am | IP Logged Quote RT58

I guess my mileage did vary somewhat. I used data from Lyman and a couple very early manuals from BPI for slug and buckshot loading. Which wads you are using and your overall wad column do make a difference.

I don't remember if Lyman suggested their "sabot" slugs for rifled barrels or not. My shotguns don't have rifled barrels and they shot fine out of them, as did the foster types I loaded all of which used a card and fiber wad columns and were roll crimped. I think the big appeal for the slugs using standard wads and star crimps was to make them easier to load, but I don't think they are equal to real "saboted" slugs.
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Posted: February 11 2018 at 8:42am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Folks, You are getting me all excited now! But of course
with limited finances I'm having to take this in baby
steps. and with you folks doing all the heavy lifting as
far as your testing and loading is concerned, and my
watching your results here, is just making me go wild! so
in a few weeks I will have a 12 gauge Lee load all
shotshell loading System in place. I will obtain wadding
and primers locally and begin My loading for my own
system. I still have my old loading data that I used with
various cap & ball cast roundball bullet From long ago.
So at least I have some data to fall back on That I knew
worked. But again, with the updated information on the
key Drive or is that drive key I can't remember, Lee
slug, I am looking forward to that as well.

and as I stated in an earlier Post in this thread, I am
gravitating quickly towards the 12 gauge pump because of
its greater versatility as opposed to a single round
shooting carbine such as the 357 lever action or The AR-
15 model. The Maverick 88 shotgun rests near my bed and
it is in direct eye level when I'm laying in my bed so
this continues to be in my vision even after I've fallen
asleep haha haha! so I am becoming entranced by the 12
gauge!

a trip to my local Walmart yesterday proved to be a
failure to obtain anymore inexpensive loads that they had
on their shelves since others No Doubt with my same
thoughts purchased the last of the inexpensive 12 gauge
00 Buck loads And all of the inexpensive field loads.
But I have enough to play with until I begin loading on
my own. presently it's 28 degrees outside with a mild
wind A wind chill of about 22. But at least it's dry now
and the rain has moved on so I will Brave the cold air as
Guy would do, and go shoot my 12 gauge a little bit
today. I need to keep my practice Pattern intact.
Nothing like an old kid with a new toy huh? Ha ha haha!


and if my punctuation and capitalization Appears a
little odd, it is because I am using the voice dictation
part of my phone to type this in. It doesn't help much
either because I have a Texas/Lakota accent that drives
this machine totally crazy!

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Hau, you all.
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Posted: February 11 2018 at 1:54pm | IP Logged Quote Buffalogun

You fellas might watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQFsitNcdtI

Eric makes it look quite easy.


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Posted: February 12 2018 at 8:55am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

I'm telling you guys, this building of different 12 gauge
ammo is getting very intriguing. The more I study this
the more I like it. The simple fact that I have always
been attracted to a shotgun for close-quarter combat is
no secret, but now with a slight failing of eyesight it's
becoming extremely practical as well. I cannot thank all
of you for your contributions to this thread because it
is only encouraging me further to move forward on all of
this. And though this Maverick 88 shotgun is classified
as an economy model or budget priced weapon, it suits me
to a T.

And when I look at a 12 gauge shotgun I think of it as
really being nothing more than a breech-loading Brown
Bess musket that has greater ballistics and more rapid
reloading capabilities. But the bore diameter and down
range Devastation is still pretty close with non-magnum
loads. yeah, I'm looking forward to playing with
the 12 gauge more and more each day. Nothing like an old
kid with a new toy! Haha haha haha!

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Posted: February 13 2018 at 6:21pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

We are!

Ya know what? There's a pristine 52 year old Rem 870 in
20ga sitting in the cabinet. I almost forgot about it.
Bet there's some more fun in that one too.
First the 12ga since it's my new field gun. The Rem 870
is plain, but not one I'd want to beat up. Won't drag it
around the woods at night huntin hogs and wood-puppies.


The .69 cal RB is going to be my prime single round
choice. I'll work with the slugs later. And of course the
loading of .31, .375, and .454 RB combinations are almost
endless. Oh yeah, it's gonna be lots of fun.

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Posted: February 13 2018 at 8:16pm | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

I don't recall what you said the choke on that Maverick is, but before you load those .69 round balls, try to drop one though the barrel. I'm guessing if it's modified or looser, it'll drop through OK, but if it sticks, I'd probably try to find something smaller. I've only shot the .69s through a cylinder bore. Nominal bore size for the 12 is .72 I think.

I've done more with the 20 using .60 caliber balls. Mostly have shot them through a Savage 24 (.22 over 20 guage) that has a cylinder bore but pretty good sights. No problem in the Savage 24 and no problem in the cheap Rossi I keep in the barn which is marked modified. My little savage 220 that I adore won't let them drop through, no choke marking but I assume it's full. I won't shoot any round balls through it.

Oddly, that cheapie Rossi groups them very well considering no sights, just a bead. From a bench at 25-30 yards, all shots will touch, that would easily have me packing out venison in the pre-rut antlerless season here based on past experience. Again, just cut down the petals of a standard Winchester trap wad,load with 7/8 ounce target or field load data and have at it. I usually cut the wad petals to end at the equator of the ball and pour enough cornmeal on top to make the crimp work.

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Posted: February 13 2018 at 10:53pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Another reason I want a .69cal RB mould is that the old
Lyman mould I had in that size was "liberated" from my
gear by a former friend. I shot that RB from my 3/4"
bored 1/5 scale Parrot 10 pounder miniature fieldpiece.
Loads of fun with that little boomer!

Confirmed bore diameter of the Maverick 88 is .729" and
is a cylinder bore, 18 1/2" barrel. It too is strictly
front bead (which is fine by me.

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