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Posted: March 15 2018 at 7:13am | IP Logged Quote John Van Gelder

Tom

Those are a very accurate gun, there is a You tube video of a guy shooting targets out to 600 meters.

I have a CZ75 B, the two bullets I use the most are the Lee truncated cone 120 gr. and the 125 RNFP bullet, which I think is a better field bullet for shooting game.

The TC bullet will penetrate like crazy, I had some of those loaded over 3.8 gr. of Titegroup, made out of very hard alloy, that would shot through 5" of green fir, and then into about 6" of loose dirt and then only stopped because of the rock it ran into.

Stay in touch, let us know how you make out.. I am sure that once you get things sorted out you will have a lot of fun with that gun.
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Posted: March 15 2018 at 10:16am | IP Logged Quote Tom W.

I remember reading in an NRA magazine last fall that the 120 gr. TC bullet was the original loading for the 9mm Luger. It was so effective that the "war Board" or whoever complained loudly and wanted it changed to a "less lethal" design.

I was headed to the range but after last night I am in no condition to go. Cancer sucks...

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Sorry to hear about the "C".. hope it is something you can get under control.
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Posted: March 16 2018 at 1:48pm | IP Logged Quote Tom W.

I did get to go to the range today. The loads that I made after the suggestions here went through the pistol just like they were supposed to! I had some others that were from the first batch and had 3 FT go into battery.
I figure it was operator error on my behalf, most probable from not snugging up the flairing die as well as I should have. The depth change helped immensely. I had even seated them to 1.063, my original COL. Thanks, Guys!

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I truly love a success story! Always puts a good cap on
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nice looking pistol you have there. how was it?
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Posted: March 27 2018 at 9:14am | IP Logged Quote Tom W.

I'm still learning it, but so far I like it a lot. It will probably be my last one ( believe that if you want to!)
And I love how heavy it feels. The DA/SA is great, I seldom use the DA feature though...

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The DA/SA action is very safe. You can carry the gun with a round in the chamber with the hammer down, then the first shot is DA.

The idea that a little tab on the trigger is all the safety you need, Glock and a lot of other modern modern guns, I feel is problematic.

There are lots if incidents of folks shooting themselves with guns of that ilk.
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John Van Gelder wrote:
The DA/SA action is very safe. You can
carry the gun with a round in the chamber with the hammer down, then
the first shot is DA.

The idea that a little tab on the trigger is all the safety you need, Glock
and a lot of other modern modern guns, I feel is problematic.

There are lots if incidents of folks shooting themselves with guns of
that ilk.


I think most if not all SIG-SAUER's have no safety at all. I know for sure
the P220 in .45 ACP has none. At least the DA pull is fairly stiff. The SA
pull is fairly light on mine but safe. I will say this; on SA it is more
accurate than a serious custom target 1911 I own. Sure surprised the
heck out of me.
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Posted: March 28 2018 at 3:10pm | IP Logged Quote Buffalogun

Here is the LEE 358-125 rf loaded in Federal brass over 4.5gr. CFE Pistol. Next loading I'll bell the case mouth a little more.

These are BHN-27, cast at .360" and sized .358". They shoot well and will be used for snakes, opossum, raccoons, lions and tigers and bears.



Loaded in the magazine of my SAR K2P which has a groove diameter of .356".



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Buffalogun wrote:
They shoot well and will be used for snakes, opossum, raccoons, lions and tigers and bears.


Oh my.
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Posted: March 28 2018 at 6:52pm | IP Logged Quote Tom W.

I gotta get some of those.... I have the 158 gr. when I had an .357, but no longer have it,and don't want to shoot such a heavy bullet...

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Posted: March 29 2018 at 7:40am | IP Logged Quote John Van Gelder

Mike

I also have a K2P, the other name for that is CM9 mine is the CM9 gen 2. A CZ75 Clone and for a hand loader, with a lot of bullet options the fully adjustable sights are a real benefit.

It will use any of the CZ 75 magazines and some of the CZ parts.

The more I shoot it the more I like the gun, lots of good reviews.

I use the same bullet, I have a can of CFE, but have not tried it in the 9mm yet.

I size my bullets at .358.. powders I have used with the Lee 125gr, bullet.. : 3.5 gr. Hodgdons Clays
                           5 gr. Unique
                        4.4 gr. 231
                        3.8 gr, Titegroup
All of those loads are in the 1100 fps range, and well below the 35K upper pressure limit. All good field loads.

I seat my bullets just to the crimp groove.

I have had a lot of fun with the 9mm, it is a very efficient round and you sure get a lot of shots from a can of powder and 10# of lead.

I have also loaded that bullet over 2 gr. of H Clays, they don't work the action, makes it easier to find the brass when you are small game hunting in thick cover. Those loads are very accurate, and all you need for grouse, rabbits and squirrels.

Tom

A lot of folks shoot 158-160s in their 9mm, and a few for "just in case"..might be good. The 9mm comes "into it's own", with bullets in the 120-130gr. range at 11-1200fps.

Paul

Sig markets a lot of different models, with or without a manual safety. The Army's Sig P320 has a manual safety. Lots of chatter about that gun..   
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Posted: March 29 2018 at 1:21pm | IP Logged Quote John Van Gelder

Here are my favorite 9mm bullets, both from Lee.

Hopefully they are scaled properly..

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Posted: March 30 2018 at 7:38am | IP Logged Quote Buffalogun

John,

My K2P has eaten everything I've fed it with nary a hiccup. So far the Hornady 124gr. XTP has been the most accurate jacketed bullet.

I have thought of getting one of LEE's TC molds. I assume you have the TL design.

The mold designation is 356, but what size bullets does your mold cast?


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Posted: March 30 2018 at 10:58am | IP Logged Quote John Van Gelder

Mike

I think those guns are a great value. The more I use mine the more I like it.

I have not miked any of the TC bullets, I "bump" them in the sizing die so the finished product is .358.

My best results come from seating the bullet and then applying the crimp, without a crimp groove if you try to seat and crimp in the same operation you end up with a little ring of lead right at the mouth of the case.

The TC bullet is probably the most reliable design as far as reliable feeding.

Your comment about critters to include, "lions, tigers and bears" is pretty close to the mark. I posted an article about an Alaskan guide that killed a big grizzly that charged he and his client, he used a S&W 9mm loaded with hard cast 147 gr, RNFP bullets.

The 9mm would not have been my first choice, in that country, and I am willing to bet that after the smoke cleared and the bear was down, there was a requirement for clean underwear. After I read that article I found a number of instances of folks killing large animals in emergency situations, with the 9mm.

I shared the article about the Alaskan guide with a life long friend of mine, who was also in Alaska, he was a Fish and Wildlife Officer. His comment was that the guide did two things right: 1. he stood his ground and 2. Used hard cast bullets.   
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Posted: April 23 2018 at 7:35pm | IP Logged Quote Tom W.

I sold a few dies and a mold today, so I'm going to send my barrel to Dougguy in N.C. and let him throat it for me. I believe for a $55 round trip and a week's turnaround is reasonable. The local gunsmith wants $75 to walk in the door....

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Posted: April 23 2018 at 7:51pm | IP Logged Quote Atavist

a lot to catch up on here but just realized we both recently aquired cz's...

The old cz85 i just got cycled everything I could throw at it... might just be spring weight difference in well used and new but stinks to here the new cz75s aren't as universal as the old ones.
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Posted: April 24 2018 at 6:26am | IP Logged Quote John Van Gelder

Tom

When you say throating the barrel, just what do you mean?

Atavist

The CZ design is one of the most copied on the planet. The big gun makers in Germany, Italy, Turkey, Israel, and about anyplace else that makes firearms has a variant of the CZ 75.
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