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Posted: March 27 2018 at 6:48am | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

OK I have a S&W 910s That shoots low with my regular 9mm reloads. I even bore sited this gun and the sites are set low so it's shooting like it should, LOW. With dove tail sites I thought I could get an adjustable set but went to Midway and all of theirs are set. What are you supposed to do in this instance?? There is not enough front site to file down and no way to raise the rear site. Any input would be nice as it is a very nice gun being an alloy frame it would be nice for carry. Any ideas??? Craig

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Posted: March 27 2018 at 8:31am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

I don't even know what this weapon looks like, but I'm
willing to bet its like the multitude of all the other
9mm auto made for concealed carry. Small package. Maybe
some polymer mixed in. Basically a "point and shoot"
close quarters pistol so many folks are buying these
days. And it was never designed for precision target work
in the first place. Am I right?

If so, what do you define as low? A couple inches at
15yds, or a foot or more at 15ft?

Most folks in a genuine gunfight tend to shoot high
anyway. Human nature to point high in a panic situation.
Though some do just shoot the ground in front of them.

So just how low does this 9mm shoot?

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Posted: March 27 2018 at 8:57am | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

I'd say 3" to 4" low at 15' and very consistent at that. This is an older gun and a derivative of the model 37 of which I also own one and they also shoot very well just this one is poor. BTW these are all steel auto's and I have a lot, 5906 4904 4906 and others. Craig

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Posted: March 27 2018 at 9:15am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Ok. Don't follow 9mm or the weapons that launch em, thus
I don't know that much about em.

3" to 4" low at 15' kinda sucks. I can see why it would
get your attention. If it were me [and remember I'm not
fond of 9mm ] I'd try some 147gr fodder to increase
the bore hang time and thus get the rounds to shoot
higher. That's as easy a fix that I can think of.

Did just the opposite in a 45Colt that shot high [9" to
10" high at 15m with 250gr] Went to 200gr and it's point
of aim at the same distance. Beats a 1" tall front sight
huh?

Yes sir, I'd try a heavier bullet before looking for
expensive sights and weapon modification.

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Posted: March 27 2018 at 10:04am | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

I can certainly do that with no trouble but I do like the fact I can shoot any of my 9mm reloads in any gun and it should work except this on of course!! Thanks Wade for the input.Craig

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Posted: March 27 2018 at 2:06pm | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

Well I did a big reply and somehow lost the whole thing. I went to check the bullets and found first the 147g HST. Loaded them at 5.0g power pistol then i found a bunch of the same all ready loaded at 4,8g so were good to go. Will shoot ASAP weather permitting!!!! Craig

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Posted: March 27 2018 at 4:57pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

I have total confidence you're going to have a higher
point of impact.

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Posted: March 29 2018 at 8:04am | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

Went to shoot and test the gun today and my range is under water. Maybe in a few days although it is supposed to rain for like two weeks. I can go to a indoor range if I have to. Craig

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Posted: April 01 2018 at 11:13am | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

Well Wade was correct on this one. All rounds loaded up with 147g all shot with perfect aim. I couldn't be happier except I will need to keep 147g just for that gun together. Oh well it's fixed as good as I can fix it at this point. Thanks Wade good advice!!! Who of thought?

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Posted: April 01 2018 at 11:18am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Most welcome Craig!

Hey, I may wanna use scopes as toss-up targets sometime,
but every now and then I do get something right

Glad it worked out.

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Posted: April 01 2018 at 12:37pm | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

Yeah it changed to whole way the gun shot. I would have stayed and shot more but had to drive through water to get there and didn't want to over stay in case I had trouble getting out. It was fun though. It always is when your successful. Thanks again. I love it when it comes together.    Craig

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Posted: April 01 2018 at 6:22pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Understand. Those two 45Colts I got recently are like
night and day. The 7 1/2" requires a 200gr at 1000fps.
The 5 1/2" open top needs a 250gr~255gr around 900fps.
Swap the ammo and the open top shoots low and the big
Paladin looking SAA hits real high. Both from the same
maker. Both precision built and accurate with very
specific ammunition even though the same caliber. It
happens.

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Posted: April 02 2018 at 6:00am | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

I was going to ask if the same thing happened in a gun that shoots good at 115g bullets if you were to go to the 147g would they shoot then high?? Craig

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Posted: April 02 2018 at 7:10am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Well Craig, when the PD went to 9mm, the issue ammo at
first was 115gr hyper velocity stuff in the issue Beretta
92F, it shot sorta low for most. Just an inch or so.
Standard velocity 115gr were fine. Then later, they
switched ammo to 147gr stuff. Rounds rose about 3" above
POA and were 4" to 5" above the former 115gr zippy loads.

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Posted: April 02 2018 at 8:56am | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

It's kind of interesting as I have shot 1000's of 115g and probably 500 124g and at leased 100 147g in other guns and I don't remember having any issue like this gun but it sure fixed it. One other thing to consider is that I am shooting much better now than before when I tested all these different guns, just saying. I should just be more observant when I shoot and not just blame it on myself !!! BTW I have lately bought a Jenning site pusher tool and now I don't find guns I need it for go figure. Craig

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Posted: April 02 2018 at 12:32pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Funny, because I shot fantastic when younger and not so
technical about everything. Today I can figure and study
the daylights outta stuff yet aim at the ground in front
of me and miss! I was a lot better off when I just
snatched up a weapon and went to town with it!

The RCBS RNFP Cowboy bullet of 140gr in 38cal is my
"consolidation bullet" in all things 38. [Two very
different revolvers and one rifle.] It provides the best
all around accuracy, distance work, casting ease, and
most of all; the least deviation of point of impact. It
simply shoots good with all my 38cal guns. Something that
others were either high or low.

The 50gr difference in the 45Colt with two different
revolvers poses, perhaps a possible solution with either
a 225gr bullet or a 230gr. Something in between 200gr and
250gr. Another "consolidation bullet" but in .45cal.
Possibly a compromise will put a single load close to POA
with either 45 revolver's peculiarities.

Perhaps the 124gr 9mm may just be your "consolidation
bullet" all your 9mm could shoot with a collective
accuracy by reaching a compromise in bullet weight to
point of impact ratio for all 9mm's you have. It's a
thought?

Would only cost your time and five rounds of each bullet
weight per gun. Shoot same POI with each. Record the
results. Compile the data to find a commonality between
them. Simple comparative analysis.

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Posted: April 02 2018 at 12:41pm | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

Or just use the 147 in that gun and be done with it. I am just happy it works as good as it does. Craig

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FWIW; I have built up a rear sight. I carefully molded a
piece of "epoxy stick" to the rear sight of an old
revolver (the kind of epoxy that comes in a cylindrical
shape and is kneaded together when used). I cleaned the
sight and molded/applied a bit of epoxy to the sight.
When dry (I waited a couple days) I filed the epoxy to
shape. I used a black marking pen to color it ans if
you're careful when filing (going slow with a fine cut
file) the addition won't be noticeable...

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Posted: April 02 2018 at 3:10pm | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

Sounds interesting!! I do like the way it shoots now with the 147g. It really seems to shoot lighter with less perceived recoil. Just seems lighter. Craig

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mikld wrote:
(the kind of epoxy that comes in a cylindrical
shape and is kneaded together when used


Sounds sort of like PC7. Amazing stuff.
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