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Posted: April 08 2018 at 4:15pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

One thing about reloading for an autoloader is chasing
brass! My 100m bench is in an area by the house and mowed
low. But walk out into the woods for some action shooting
and brass goes everywhere! So Saturday at my favorite
reloading shop, Rick, the owner, pointed out the Caldwell
rig for my Dr. Evil when it tosses it's empties out. $10
and change. Not a bad price I reckon.

Got busy with it today. Used the Velcro strap and
positioned the deflection part and bag according to the
manufacturer's instructions and shot 20 rounds. Each and
every round went directly into the bag like being dropped
in there. Didn't distract me nor really get in the way.
The zipper on the bag's bottom opened right into my can
for empties with ease.

So, is it a Deal or a Dud? I say Deal!

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Posted: April 08 2018 at 5:16pm | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

Good product and cheap too. I don't own an AR but learned out of necessity that one of those makes life a lot better when shooting a 1907 Winchester. That .351 WSL brass ain't cheap, or easy to find and the 1907 is the worst brass slinging thing I ever shot.

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Posted: April 08 2018 at 7:34pm | IP Logged Quote turbo1889

I once saw a 9mm carbine rifle built from
the ground up that stored it's fired cases
inside it's hollow stock.

Brass catcher bags are nice but I have
often thought a gun like that built from
the ground up to not spit it's brass all
over has some merit as well.

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Posted: April 09 2018 at 7:01am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Well here at "Ground Zero-Dollar" a ten buck bag is all
we need. My last remaining dog, Fred, gave me the "high
five paw" seal of approval.
It sure beats losing brass in the woods. My M92 lever gun
will toss it's brass straight up and it lands if my feet
90% of the time but this autoloading critter is a
different story. That's why I like this bag. It was a
good deal.

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Posted: April 09 2018 at 7:21am | IP Logged Quote turbo1889

Oh, yah, I totally agree the bags are very
useful and the best option for curing the
problem after the fact. Although I am not
a huge fan of as you have named them "Dr.
Evil" style guns I do personally own it's
big brother in a 7.62 chambered flat top
version with wood thumb hole stock and
forgrip which I paid way too much for the
wood furniture and I have a similar brass
bag for it.

I just think an ounce of prevention is
worth a pound of cure and I wish gun
manufacturers would start from the get go
making them so they at least drop the
brass at ones feet instead of flinging it
all over. I was trained as an engineer
and I know that it could be done right
from the beginning in many designs with
almost no cost difference so their
laziness in not doing so and us having to
do work around cures after the fact is
very annoying to my engineering mind.
Even if you aren't considering reloading
downward case ejection makes the most
practical sense for a combat weapon so you
aren't tossing hot brass on your own
fellows alongside you on a combat line.

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Posted: April 10 2018 at 3:18pm | IP Logged Quote Paul B.

"I just think an ounce of prevention is
worth a pound of cure and I wish gun
manufacturers would start from the get go
making them so they at least drop the
brass at ones feet instead of flinging it
all over."

Might be nice at the range but let's face it, most if not all centerfire
semi-auto rifles are for the most part combat weapons. They're not
looking to pick up brass to reload.

"Even if you aren't considering reloading
downward case ejection makes the most
practical sense for a combat weapon so you
aren't tossing hot brass on your own
fellows alongside you on a combat line."

Not too sure how you're gonna do that. Most designs have the
magazine under the receiver. About the only side magazine guns I can
think of are the STEN and Lanchester. (sp) You ever shoot that cute
little browning semi-auto? You know the one with the bottom ejection,
a clone of an earlier Remington gun? Getting hot .22's up your shirt
sleeve ain't much fun and picking freshly fired 5.6/.223's can be hot
enough to raise blisters. better they eject like they do.

For spits and grins, shoot a SIG P-220 .45 ACP sometime. Ejected
brass flies over 40 feet away with some force. Even light target load
kick way the hell and gone. I shot mine once at an indoor range and
they bounced off the barrier wall of the shooting stall and hit me with
noticeable force. Double action pull sucks but on single action she's a
sweetheart and very accurate.
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Posted: April 12 2018 at 12:01am | IP Logged Quote turbo1889

P-90 is the best example of a true
downward ejection weapon I am aware of. I
have personally had some range time with a
long barreled semi-auto only version.
Although I have some complaints about the
brass stretch it produces they are
incredibly smooth machines. Granted the
top loading magazine system it uses is
only suitable for non-rimmed cartridges of
fairly short length.


Then there is a Swiss gun that both the
mag and ejection is on the bottom of the
receiver side by side. Receiver is a
little wider then normal about 1-1/2
normal width.

Those are the two true downward ejection
guns that do it well.

Although not true downward ejection both
the Desert Tech MDR and the FS-2000 are
both excellent forward ejectors with the
Desert Tech MDRs system being my personal
prefrence. Both have a very gentle "drop
them a few feet away" ejection.

Now I do realize that in certain guns
especially handguns any consideration of
sending the brass anywhere specific except
out of the gun so the next shot can be
fired adds too much bulk. But in a long-
gun solving the issue with just a small
component addition is so attractive which
is why I like the system used on the
Desert Tech DMR so much.

As far as brass spitters that send shell
casings flying into the next farm field
over - I see your Sig P-220 and I
will raise you one CZ-52. I have heard
that in a couple cases where those surplus
pistols were used in the commission of a
crime or self defense shooting not even
the CSI people were able to find all the
brass !!!

Edited by turbo1889 on April 12 2018 at 12:02am


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Posted: April 12 2018 at 5:28am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Yeah, and the Caldwell brass catching bag works pretty
good too.

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Posted: April 16 2018 at 3:34pm | IP Logged Quote getsmart

Your review sold me. I am going to try it. It is only $8.99 now at midway.
Thanks.

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Posted: April 16 2018 at 4:06pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Eric, it's a lifesaver.
Well, a "brass saver" anyway.
Let me know how ya like it when you get one and not have
to search for your brass and loose 30% of it without it


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