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Posted: April 23 2018 at 5:53pm | IP Logged Quote Atavist

Decided to get into casting this year and I
feel like James Woods... "ooh a piece of
candy... ooh a piece of candy.... ooh a piece
of candy" .... all of a sudden my midway cart
is almost $1000... and ooh maybe not lol...

There's just too many good options... I tend
to shoot every gun at both ends of the
spectrum... have subsonic single ball loads
for everything from 357 to 45-70 and run them
all up near their weight limits hitting 220gr
in 357 and 535 in 45-70... not running them
crazy hot in the bigger weights but like to
have load option... "ooh a squirel" ...
"sh*t a grizzly" makes getting into casting
a spendy proposition... but still worth it
for the longterm cost savings as well as
hours of enjoyment playing with molten metal.

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Posted: April 23 2018 at 6:02pm | IP Logged Quote Ronnieboy

Hahhah, never seen it in print that way but,   I fully agree.   I started casting cause I didn't want to run out. (shortage). But now I got plenty, but wait, I think I see a new mold for my 03A3 !!!!! just 60 bucks, oh then shipping, oh then tax?   then give the change to NRA for the little shooters.    WHAT?? a hundered bucks? Well, I do have a check commin this week.   Ron

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Posted: April 23 2018 at 6:19pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

The number of moulds you will accumulate will blow a non-
caster's mind.
Last count I have 14 different .357/.358 moulds alone.
Half a dozen in .452/.454... .430? Can't remember.. 5? 6
maybe... Its downright goofy!

Why do you think I consolidated last year?
TOO MANY OPTIONS! And I've sent moulds to friends and my
brother too. And I STILL got too many!

So have fun. Casting is a hoot! And moulds are addictive.
You can't go through life reloading with just one mould.
Uncle Leo did, but he had just one gun too!

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Posted: April 23 2018 at 6:40pm | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

What are you planning to start casting for first? The .38Special/.357 Magnum is a good one to start with.

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Posted: April 23 2018 at 6:52pm | IP Logged Quote Atavist

richhodg66 wrote:
What are you planning to
start casting for first? The .38Special/.357
Magnum is a good one to start with.


My very first mold will be a .457 ball mold..
.I've been paying $.0.13/ball to date and
being as I stuff three of them in a 45-70
case i go through a lot of them and that's
$0.39 per shot just in lead... more than I
pay per shot for my 535gr lubed and gas
checked bullets.
... next will likely be a 000 mold for 357
ball as I stuff the case similarly...

Then the trouble starts... trying to be
rational... I generally go to the field with
either the 45-70 and a 357 for finishing,
sport, and emergencies,... or just my 44mag
blackhawk for bear defense... so next might
be a 44mag mold... or should I get that 230gr
309 mold for my 30-06 to work up a new bear
load... I generally carry my 44mag with my 06
as I don't trust 168gr to stop a griz.

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Posted: April 24 2018 at 8:08pm | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

Round balls are easy. About the easiest shape to cast and no sizing required.

Depending on the shape of that 230 grain .30 caliber, it likely won't stabilize in a 1 in 10" twist most .30 caliber rifles have. Sounds like one designed for the Blackout.

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Posted: April 24 2018 at 8:48pm | IP Logged Quote Atavist

richhodg66 wrote:
Round balls are easy.
About the easiest shape to cast and no sizing
required.

Depending on the shape of that 230 grain .30
caliber, it likely won't stabilize in a 1 in
10" twist most .30 caliber rifles have.
Sounds like one designed for the Blackout.


Good point in the 230 gr... it is in fact
listed as a blackout bullet... be nice to
have that kind of wumpum in a 06... but may
be better to stuck with the 200gr I'm loading
now.
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Posted: April 24 2018 at 9:35pm | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

Seems 220 is as heavy as it gets and you have to go round nose to make that work in a 1 in 10". Still, at velocities an '06 can push those, I think they'd go clear through anything on this continent.

If you want a great bullet in the '06 and pretty much any standard .30, the RCBS 180 grain flat point is it. Mine cast over 190, something like 195 checked and lubed and it has a decent meplat. Good bullet in all I've tried it in.

There are lots of good hunting designs for the .44. Lee had a wide flat nose 300+ grain offering at one time not sure if they still catalog it.



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This would be good for what you're looking for; https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1010207991/lee-2-cavity-bu llet-mold-c430-310-rf-44-special-44-remington-magnum-44-40-w cf-430-diameter-310-grain-flat-nose-gas-check

Personally, I can't imagine what a .44 would need to do that the RCBS 250 Kieth or 430421 won't do, but that Lee looks like a thumper. If it was me, I'd find a six cavity version instead of the double.

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Posted: April 30 2018 at 5:51am | IP Logged Quote John Van Gelder

Round balls are a great, easy way to produce plinking loads. I shoot a lot of .44 and .45 round balls in my revolvers and autos, they are great for small game shooting.

I have dabbled with the thought of getting a .360 ball mold, for my .38/.357 and 9mm.

I have a very old Lyman mold that produces a 77 gr. wad cutter, for .38s. That accounted for a lot of small game when I lived back East.
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Posted: April 30 2018 at 6:56am | IP Logged Quote Atavist

Placed my order... got the 457 ball mold,
only 2 ball. A 16 ball 360 mold, and a 340gr
45-70 bullet mold... I'm almost out of 300gr
bullets UT still have about 100 535gr and 500
405gr... and of course the lube and sizing
kit... figure I'll buy the molds for other
bullets when I
need more bullets...

I'd really like to find a 357/38 collar
button mold... local shop sales a 56gr
wadcutter for 38... I can stack 3 in a 357
case and it's a nice small game load at
around 800fps

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Posted: April 30 2018 at 2:53pm | IP Logged Quote John Van Gelder

Back when I lived in the east I found a mold that dropped about an 80 grn. round nosed bullet for the .38/.357. I do not even recall the manufacture of the mold, it was a double cavity and made of brass. Probably a real collectors item today, but I traded it off for a double cavity Lyman SWC mold.
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Posted: May 15 2018 at 8:48am | IP Logged Quote REM1875

I too have been fascinated with 3 ball 45-70 (I got an
ancient rolling block with a Navy Arms bull barrel and a
trash can out at 25 feet with 3 balls at least usual
guarantees a hit)
Rumour has it that these were used in prison guard guns
.....
Info on loading them was kinda skimpy when I started so
I am hesitant to mention loads ......

And multi ball 357 ......using triple ought shot.....
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well I'm sure that your bullet molds have arrived and
you have been casting yes? And we are all now waiting for
your report on your progress. So as the kids say "S'up"?

Multiple projectile loads hold a certain fascination to
some. Often they are disappointed with the dismissal
results. Small game is better taken with a 141gr~148gr
full wadcutter and a well placed shot rather than two or
three roundball flying off in erratic and unpredictable
patterns.

Although single roundball loads can be good up close.
Taking a cast roundball and running it through a caliber
specific sizer and tumble lubed does well at short
ranges. Sizing flattens part of the ball making it
slightly oblong but of proper bore diameter. Better
accuracy and gas seal with more bearing surface. Also
flattens the ends too making them a bit like RNFP in a
minor fashion. Soft lead and keep velocity low! Repeat;
low...

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richhodg66 wrote:
This would be good for what you're looking for;
cavity-bullet-mold-c430-310-rf-44-special-44-remington-magnu m-
44-40-wcf-430-diameter-310-grain-flat-nose-gas-check"> https://
www.midwayusa.com/product/1010207991/lee-2-cavity-bu llet-
mold-c430-310-rf-44-special-44-remington-magnum-44-40-w cf-
430-diameter-310-grain-flat-nose-gas-check


Personally, I can't imagine what a .44 would need to do that the RCBS
250 Kieth or 430421 won't do, but that Lee looks like a thumper. If it
was me, I'd find a six cavity version instead of the double.


I have one and love it. This past Saturday we were shooting them at
steel targets at 100 yards and doing very well with them..

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Old Ranger wrote:
well I'm sure that your bullet molds have arrived and
you have been casting yes? And we are all now waiting for
your report on your progress. So as the kids say "S'up"?

Multiple projectile loads hold a certain fascination to
some. Often they are disappointed with the dismissal
results. Small game is better taken with a 141gr~148gr
full wadcutter and a well placed shot rather than two or
three roundball flying off in erratic and unpredictable
patterns.

Although single roundball loads can be good up close.
Taking a cast roundball and running it through a caliber
specific sizer and tumble lubed does well at short
ranges. Sizing flattens part of the ball making it
slightly oblong but of proper bore diameter. Better
accuracy and gas seal with more bearing surface. Also
flattens the ends too making them a bit like RNFP in a
minor fashion. Soft lead and keep velocity low! Repeat;
low...


Sorry for the lack of coms... the molds have indeed arrived, a while ago, and I've got 60lbs of tire weights i traded for just sitting waiting to be cast but unfortunately have not found the time to do any casting... i started a new job in January and seems to just be getting busier... and then we just signed on a new house so I'm now in the task of getting organized to move both the house and shop... hoping to get some casting done in the next couple weeks while i'm move into the new house doing renovations while the wife and kids are in the old house and I have some free time in the evenings.
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Posted: June 06 2018 at 7:42pm | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

Job and family come first, but keep us posted on how your first casting sessions go. It's a great addition to the shooting and handloading hobby.

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