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Posted: April 23 2018 at 7:27pm | IP Logged Quote Tom W.

Wasn't today supposed to be when Planet X was due to wipe out the world? Oh wait, if that didn't happen maybe today was supposed to be Armageddon? Those that predict those things said so, anyway.... but it hasn't happened yet...

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Posted: April 23 2018 at 7:35pm | IP Logged Quote turbo1889

On the planet X-thing, even if you buy
into the theory according to the supposed
elliptical orbit period and backdating
from the ancient records in cuniform you
can't get much more accurate then down to
a particular decade or two. Predictions
of exact dates being laughable since the
old cuniform records even if taken
literally as fact not legend aren't that
specific about exact dates and then there
are issues with changes in calenders and
converting between various calendar
systems between then and now and then such
a body in such a proposed highly
elliptical orbit would have variations in
it's orbit and would not have a highly
eexact repetative orbital period like
planets with far more stable more circular
orbits. It's a physics thing.

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Posted: April 24 2018 at 6:16am | IP Logged Quote Rex

There were a couple of guys down at the bar last night who aren't so sure the world isn't gone this morning.
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Posted: April 24 2018 at 7:17am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Well I don't know nuthin 'bout no Q-Knee-Form writtin'
but here in the backwoods of East Texas we kinda figure
it's sorta like this.

We been here a spell. We're likely gonna be here a awhile
more. And when the Good Lord has had enough fun watchin'
us do stupid stuff and seriously start actin' up and
really trashin' the place up like a bunch of drunk
rednecks, He's gonna swat us like so many nasty roaches
and get rid of all the stupid people here. Then He's
gonna sweep up our trash. Put it on Mars or some such
place and turn the planet over to the animals here. See,
they act right. Sure they eat one another but they don't
go all spastic and murder everything like psychos.
Yup, when God's done watchin' the freak show and he
squashes us flat, He's gonna shake His head and shrug His
shoulders at an experiment gone bad.

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Posted: April 24 2018 at 12:19pm | IP Logged Quote Tom W.

Yup, Woke up and still here... I wonder who really believes these things made up by "scientists".

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Posted: April 25 2018 at 1:29pm | IP Logged Quote KinleyWater

Tom W. wrote:
Wasn't today supposed to be when Planet X was due to wipe out the world? Oh wait, if that didn't happen maybe today was supposed to be Armageddon? Those that predict those things said so, anyway.... but it hasn't happened yet...


Yes, it is. Sorry, you missed it.

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Posted: April 25 2018 at 6:52pm | IP Logged Quote turbo1889

It's the "doomsday date marking" that I
object too. As the good book says, "No
man knows the day or the hour." So once
they start stating dates and/or times that
is when I call fowl.

As to specifically the whole planet-X
thing. The main question is whether or
not the old cuniform records are just made
up stories from whole cloth or if there is
at least a base kernel of truth most
likely imbelished. I personally consider
it unlikely but not impossible that there
is such a body out there. From
astronomical studies we know that very few
other stars out there are loners. If our
sun truely is not paired orbitally with at
least one other star we would be in a very
small minority. Now, there are no stars
emitting visible light in close enough
proximity to be orbitally paired with our
sun but not all stars emit visible light,
the smallest stars only emit heat with no
visible light emissions. Such a star
would be invisible to the naked eye and to
ground based infrared and radio telescopes
unless it was in close enough. Only an
orbital infrared telescope outside the
interference of Earth's atmosphere that
"sees heat" could detect such a star in an
outer orbit of our solar system. An
actual smaller planetary non-star body out
there would be even harder to detect if it
is far out beyond pluto although that far
out a small heat only producing star is
actually more likely then any decent sized
planetary body.

So the whole planet-X thing isn't a
totally unreasonable possibility, what is
unreasonable is the whole doom and gloom
predictions about a close in pass into the
inner solar system, if it's orbit ever
came in that close it would have caused so
much havoc in the past that this planet
wouldn't be inhabitable. What is possible
is that it might be tied into the long
period ice age cycles. Funny thing we
have noticed about other twined stars out
in the universe is that when they come
closer together in their orbits they burn
slightly hotter and when they are further
apart in their orbits they burn slightly
cooler, it is believed to have something
to do with the nuclear fusion that powers
stars in their cores that proximity to
each other has effects on the reaction
rates over distance. So even a very small
heat only little brown dwarf star out
there beyond Jupiter even at it's closest
pass if it's in a highly elliptical orbit
could become visible to the naked eye if
it flares up and burns hot enough at it's
close end of it's elliptical orbit. "Hay
dude there is another little dim sun in
the sky that we can see on a moonless
night!" would be about the extent of it
and may be the kernel of truth at the base
of the old probably highly embellished
tales of the ancient ancestors. And of
course the big sun would burn hotter as
well and there would be real global
warming or real global cooling when it's
the furthest out on its elliptical orbit,
but obviously not enough to make the
planet uninhabitable just enough to be a
causal effect of the long jungle-age/ice-
age cycle that is actually a very stable
repetative cycle going back in the
geological and ice core records. Nothing
to worry about unless your right on the
edge of going into one extreme edge of
that cycle or the other, and even then
it's not like we can't roll up our sleeves
and adapt to whichever end if that cycle
is on the way.

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Posted: April 25 2018 at 7:42pm | IP Logged Quote Tom W.

Ooooooookkkkay.... whatever you say. My Baptist beliefs teach me that
I'll be watching from afar when the Apocalypse happens...

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Posted: April 25 2018 at 8:12pm | IP Logged Quote turbo1889

Not saying to apocalypse won't happen or
you won't be watching from afar. Just
saying your own holy book says that anyone
except "Thee Father" himself is a
lier/false-prophet/huckster/etc if they
claim to know the exact day and/or hour.

And although there might actually be a
"planet-X" or more likely a small brown
dawrf star out there it ain't what causes
no apocalypse or even any sort of disaster
beyond possibly a very long warm/cold
climate cycle.

What annoys me is not only the freaks on
one side with their crazy "Planet-X is on
the way in for a close pass and is going
to rip our planet off it's axis!". But
also the closed minded ones on the other
side who just because some freaks are
going nuts about "planet-X" they go too
far the other way and claim we know
everything about our solar system and our
government and scientific establishment
not only know the whole truth they of
course tell us the whole truth.

Although I consider it the minority
possiblity a brown dawrf star in orbit of
our sun might be out there and might be
causing some actual global warming because
it is on its way towards the closer point
of it's orbit and "THEY" might have
figured this out decades ago when they
first got a satalight with a lower end of
the infrared spectrum telescope on board
up in orbit outside the Earth's atmosphere
and they figured how to use the projected
climate effects to try to grab more power
and control for themselves by blaiming it
on man's effect on the climate.

Reason I consider it a minority possiblity
is because it would be hard to keep it a
secret that long even if it takes a
satalight to detect it and they have
control of the satalight, it's still hard
to keep someone from blabbing. But it's
not outside the possibilities and if they
could pull something like that off using a
natural cycle to their advantage to put us
regular folks more under their thumb they
certainly wouldn't be above doing it.

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