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Old Ranger
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Posted: May 20 2018 at 6:38am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

I believe a lot of how a person cares for their firearms
stems from their upbringing. New grandson was raised by
civilian folk that have just under a thousand acre cattle
ranch. They buy a new pickup and car every two years and
hire any maintenance done around the place. They own just
a couple weapons and just shoot hogs and coyote. They
don't clean weapons. The lad never went into the service
either. Army troops and Marines know weapons maintenance
is paramount to their existence and mission. That stays
with all but the very lazy of veterans.

Guy's cleaning rig for traveling into the woods makes
sense. He's also an experienced Marine, Peace Officer,
and hunter. His background, like many of us, was formed
by lessons learned long ago in life. His point in this
thread is both instructive and motivational to rookies
and veteran shooters alike.

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Posted: May 20 2018 at 7:02am | IP Logged Quote MontanaWolf

I tend to be a bit more scientific about things. I did that clean thing in the Army and yep on my AR it was needed.
But my 1st hunting weapon was a 12ga Moss 500 Rifled slug. Accurate weapon for a SG and slug and I would go to the Mississippi River area, sandy and wet for deer 2 times a year. I swore I'd clean that weapon but when you are working 3 jobs and going to RN school with young kids, time is not your friend. Every year I would repeat the no clean.
(OK YOU ALL IMAGINE RANGER'S FACE HERE...). I'd rack the pump and hear the sand being ground up in it, 15 yrs later, still accurate, never cleaned, only wiped down with layer of oil to stop rust. Made me think, do I really need to clean like I was taught? Nope, none of my revolvers need it ever, never had an issue.
I decided to test my carry weapon, (I have a few of the same). Like I stated earlier, one has over 10,000 rounds through it, never even had a hic up but one needs a clean at 3000-5000, another 500 or so.
I have also read by some outdoor writers that cleaning to much damages weapons too.
Now that I believe, there is a balance to everything, including cleaning weapons.
FYI, since my carry likes to burp, I keep it clean after 2000 but give it a re-oiling monthly.
And I refuse to carry a 45ACP since they are to dang finicky, (now I started some real arguments) . Course the day Walther ever comes out with a 45ACP in the M1 version, I will own at least one, probably 2.
Edited for being the king of typos

Edited by MontanaWolf on May 20 2018 at 7:04am


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Posted: May 20 2018 at 7:26am | IP Logged Quote turbo1889

MontanaWolf wrote:
. . . I'd rack the pump and hear
the sand being ground up in it . . .


Okay, you got a face out of me on that one !!!

Sand !!! SAND !!! SAND !!!

In the action and you didn't clean it out! And on a
rifled barrel slug gun no less! BLASPHEMY !!!

Partially joking there, and partially not. Its your
gun and if you want to do that to it, well its your
gun, but I don't think I'm going to be letting you
near my collection of slug guns anytime soon.

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. . . And I refuse to carry a 45ACP since they
are to dang finicky, (now I started some real
arguments) . Course the day Walther ever comes
out with a 45ACP in the M1 version, I will own at
least one, probably 2. . . .


As you correctly point out its more about the gun
itself then the cartridge. I like the 45-ACP
cartridge but never been a real fan of the 1911
handgun. I like my current springfield-XDS carry gun
in 45-ACP and I wouldn't consider it finicky in the
least, neither would the 45-ACP chambered derringer be
a finicky gun (but then that problem doesn't usually
apply to none semi-auto guns). Years back my carry
gun was a Simmerling LM4 but eventually I sold it
because it was so valuable and worth so much more then
I had paid for it and I wasn't 100% confident in my
ability to pump that little gun and remember to keep
my off hand back and not shoot myself in my off hand I
had just used to pump the gun on the second shot in a
real situation.

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Posted: May 20 2018 at 12:00pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Moving on. Not My weapon. Not my concern.


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Posted: May 20 2018 at 8:07pm | IP Logged Quote MontanaWolf

I still got that mossberg, think I;ll post some pics here for you all to see what a real weapon is.   That is if I can figure out how, I do not do well with the techno stuff..

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