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Posted: May 19 2018 at 2:34pm | IP Logged Quote M700

Although I still believe man to be the most likely attacker I'll ever encounter while hiking, bicycling, fishing or camping... Even in my local area we have bear, cougar, wolf and coyote - all of which can be dangerous.

A couple of bicyclists were attacked by a mountain lion here in Washington. One of them is dead.

Please be careful out there! What's your choice of self-defense when out in the wilds, enjoying life?

I tend to have a 357 magnum revolver, or a 45 1911 pistol at a minimum. If I know I'm going to be in big bear country, then it's a 44 magnum revolver, or better, a powerful long gun.

Bear spray has made it onto my list of things to have along with me as well. When I was traveling thousands of miles through British Columbia and the Yukon last year, I couldn't have a sidearm, and the rifle was usually in a locked case, inside my vehicle. Kept the bear spray handy though. It was something at least.

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Posted: May 19 2018 at 2:51pm | IP Logged Quote Paul B.

When I was still able to do some fairly serious hiking it would depend
on whether it was a desert hike or over by and on Mt. Lemmon.

In the desert it could range from a .357 Mag. to a Colt .45. On or about
Mt. Lemmon nothing smaller than a .44 magnum or a Ruger Bisley .45
Colt with John Linebaugh level loads, 250 gr. in the .44's and 255 gr. in
the 45. I did try ro run 300 gr. bullets in the .44's but they's hit about 6"
high and 25 yards. Went back to the 250's and 255's figuring facing a
Black Bear or Mountain lion up close and personal and trying figure out
Kentucky elevation just might not be all that good of an idea.

I have a couple of Ruger Redhwaks, a 5.5" and 7.5" and replaceable
front sights that are taller are available. Just never got around to
ordering a couple. Anyway those Redhawks are so damned heavy they
almost require wheels. Those 300 gr. bullet did shoot high at 25 yards
but the groups were quite good.
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Posted: May 19 2018 at 3:03pm | IP Logged Quote M700

Ya, 300's shoot high from my 44 as well. I run out of rear sight adjustment trying to use them. Could replace the front sight, but normally I shoot 240/250 gr bullets from my 44 mag revolver anyway, so I just leave the sights as they are.
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Posted: May 19 2018 at 8:40pm | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

We don't have much in the way of critters that can kill you here, though they have confirmed mountain lions in Kansas, and there are almost certainly some around.

I don't worry about it, and usually consider myself adequately armed with whatever rifle or shotgun I'm hunting with. When I carry a handgun, it's usually my Ruger Security Six, sometimes my Charter Bulldog or for the past few years, my CCW .38 snub.

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I agree the biggest threat is from two legged predators but our DNR has finally admitted Wisconsin has a few cats and we definitely have lots of wolves. I spend a lot of time in northern Wisc. and my biggest concern is a sow with cubs and always carry a sidearm when X-bow deer hunting. Sometimes it's a 1911 at minimum but usually a Ruger .45 Colt Bisley with 300 gr. GC Rcbs over 2400.

Am guessing a good dose of pepper spray might have been enough to change the cats attitude in this sad situation.

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Posted: May 20 2018 at 6:30pm | IP Logged Quote M700

I suspect you're right about the pepper spray in this case. It's nasty stuff.

I'm a bit surprised that the cat pressed home an attack on two adult males. That's a pretty gutsy move on the cat's part.

Wish I'd been there, I always have pepper spray when I ride, and when on a mountain bike I almost always have a pistol.

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I read about that attack. I don't think they found the cat at the time I read about it.

I hiked and fished in the Bob Marshall Wilderness this weekend and carried a .357 with 180 grain lead hunting bullets and a can of bear spray.

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They are checking the cougar after they killed it for what may have caused the attack.
I always have a revolver when out in the woods.
Most times a 44 or 357 magnum.

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Posted: June 01 2018 at 6:10pm | IP Logged Quote John Van Gelder

I just heard about that attack today, I discussed it with my local federal game agent. He advised that the cat was a male of about three years in age. With no apparent health issues, which can cause a human attack.

During our talk he mentioned an incident where a cat showed up at a residence not far from here and was just hanging around, the cat did not seem intimidated by humans, and the land owner finally felt threatened and shot the lion.

Mt. Lions are unpredictable, and opportunists, they will kill whatever is easy for them.

In that vein I have been watching a number of bears the last couple of weeks in my talk with the game agent he told me that he was investigating a recent incident of a bear killing a full grown cow, also right in my neighborhood.

It takes a pretty big black bear to kill an 800-1000# range cow.

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Posted: June 01 2018 at 6:16pm | IP Logged Quote John Van Gelder

A little more on Guy's cat attack, the cat attacked three men, and it was killed by a sheriffs deputy. The fellow who was initially attacked, rode off to get where he had cell phone service, when he got back he found the cat standing over the body of his companion.

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