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Posted: May 24 2018 at 2:05am | IP Logged Quote M700

From Nosler's shop, Bend Oregon. One of my favorite places!

SPS (Shooters Pro Shop) was having a good sale and I took advantage.

1000 of the 185 grain, 45 caliber hollow point match pistol bullets.

250 of the 260 grain .375" Accubond hunting bullets.

Those are two great Nosler bullets. I've used a lot of the 45's over the past few years and find them to be remarkably accurate.

The 260 gr Accubond is a great-shooting bullet from my 375 rifle, and I've taken three bear with it. Then... They basically went missing for a couple of years, almost unavailable. They're back, and I just bought a bunch of 'em at a good discount from SPS.

Feeling pretty good about that. I'll be hoarding those things and only using them when I have a hunt coming up when I might be using the 375 rifle.

Woo Hoo! Got all those upstairs in the loading room now. It's nice having more bullets!

Guy

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Nice Guy! I didn't know they sold direct like that.

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Nice Guy! I didn't know they sold direct like that.


Often "blems" or "over-run" bullets, cases and even loaded ammo are avail at a good discount through "Shooters Pro Shop."

Sometimes I've been able to pick them up in person, when I'm traveling through Oregon.

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+1 on SPS great co & good service    Stay safe &
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My brother in Oklahoma is a Bullseye shooter and has begun doing it again now that his job is less demanding. He's shooting Dad's old Gold Cup and has pretty much come to the conclusion that Dad's standard load of the Lyman 452488 and 3.5 grains of Bullseye can't be beaten for accuracy, but he's still looking. Seems he read the USMC pistol team really, really likes those 185 grain Noslers and competes with them. What loadings have you found to work best with them?

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Posted: May 24 2018 at 8:49pm | IP Logged Quote M700

I don't know what works best.

I'm probably loading them a lot "warmer" than the pistol team since I want around 900 - 1000 fps or so to more or less replicate the 185 gr self-defense/carry ammo I use.

I'm using Bullseye, but just because I have some on hand, and it has always worked well in the 45 ACP for me. Am using 6 grains. Crisp slide action, good accuracy and the sights stay on target better in rapid fire than with factory 230 gr FMJ ammo.

Guy

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Posted: May 25 2018 at 12:29am | IP Logged Quote turbo1889

Personally I prefer the Woodleigh brand
name jacketed bullets in my 375-H&H they
shoot significantly tighter for me in my
gun compared to other jacketed lead core
bullets. Of course it also shoots tighter
with paper patched and monolithic solids
(hard cast lead alloy, copper solids,
guilding metal solids, & lathe turned
brass/bronze solids).

The thin jacket bullets just don't cut it,
noslers included (sierra match and game
Kings were a real disappointment as well).

Just wondering if you have tried solids
and Woodleigh or other heavy thick
jacketed bullets in yours and noticed any
accuracy differences?

Basically been wondering for a long time
if it is just my gun or if this is common
for the big 375?

Edited by turbo1889 on May 25 2018 at 12:31am


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Posted: May 25 2018 at 4:57pm | IP Logged Quote M700

I have not tried Woodleigh bullets at all, though I've heard only good things about them.

I shot my way to "long range high master" in competition, using a 308 Win with Nosler bullets.

And have shot most of my big game animals for the past 40 years with Nosler bullets. From coyotes to elk and grizzly.

So... Although I try other bullets time to time and have found some to be wonderful, I do tend to reach for Nosler when I'm loading. I'm impressed with them for both accuracy and performance on game, just as you are with the Woodleighs.

From the 375 H&H Ruger Number One, at 100 yards, the 260 gr Accubonds shoot into about 3/4" from a sitting position, no rest. I've found the Nosler Partition, the Sierra Gameking and the Hornady BTSP to be about as accurate. If I miss my 300 yard gong, it's my fault.

So far the bears I've hit, haven't complained of poor performance either!

Honestly, I think we're living in a golden age of good bullets! I've shot hardcast, Barnes, Nosler, Sierra, Hornady, Speer, Berger and other bullets. Some are incredibly accurate! All of the manufacturers I've tried, produce good bullets.

I probably ought to try some Woodleighs in the 375, but frankly I've got more bullets in that caliber than I'll shoot in my lifetime.

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Posted: May 25 2018 at 5:03pm | IP Logged Quote M700

BTW Turbo - Who makes a gilding metal solid for the 375? I'm curious. I have some gilding metal E-Tip Nosler bullets in 30 cal, and 25 cal, and have thought several times that Nosler ought to make the E-Tip available in 375" bullets as well.

Thanks, Guy
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Posted: May 27 2018 at 10:08am | IP Logged Quote turbo1889

M700 wrote:
BTW Turbo - Who makes a
gilding metal solid for the 375? I'm
curious. I have some gilding metal E-Tip
Nosler bullets in 30 cal, and 25 cal, and
have thought several times that Nosler
ought to make the E-Tip available in 375"
bullets as well.

Thanks, Guy


To my knowledge the only gilding metal
solid available in 375-cal is the Hornady
GMX 250gr. Plastic tipped boat tail. It
does work quite well but slightly more
variety would be nice.

It's just that my 375-H&H for some unknown
reason won't shoot worth a hoot with any
thin jacketed bullets I've tried but
shoots good to excellent with almost any
solid bullet option and will tolerate the
thick jacketed Woodleighs.

Primary load development at the range for
me with my 375-H&H consists of shooting at
an 8" diameter thick plate steel gong
hanging on chains at the 300-yd line with
the occasional actual paper Target at that
or shorter range. Any kind of solid
bullet ----- cast lead, paper patched
lead, GMX solids, copper solids,
brass/bronze solids, etc . . . once I've
got the powder charge tuned (and often
even when not perfectly tuned) I can ring
that 8" diameter gong out there at 300
every shot, shot after shot. The thick
jacketed Woodleigh soft points I can do
the same when using the right load that is
not only tuned in for the most accurate
charge level but also uses the right
powder choice. So even the Woodleighs
don't consistently do as well in my gun as
almost any solid bullet option but for
terminal effect reasons sometimes I do
want soft point jacketed loads. Contrary
to some people's belief there are
situations where a good jacketed lead core
soft point is the best option and not even
the most new fangled mushrooming copper
solids can do as good of a job.

On the other hand, I've never been able to
get any of the thinner jacketed bullets to
shoot tighter then pie plate buckshot like
patterns at 100 and often spray 3 or 4
foot patterns out at 300 !!! And most
annoying of all I can find no reasonable
reason why. The bore slugs nice and tight
at 0.3755" in the grooves with nice crisp
rifling and careful examination with a
fiber-optic bore scope shows no rough
spots or pits or anything like that in the
bore. Guns muzzle and crown are all fine
with no damage and the guns throat
although not as tight as I would like is
still in good condition. I've got mil-
surp guns with loose as a goose throats,
bores that look like sewer pipes and
cleaning rod wear on their muzzles and
crowns and they shoot tighter then that
with regular non thick jacketed bullets.
Yah they struggle to shoot 3-4 moa but
they are battle worn old soldiers but they
still don't spray 3-4 foot patterns out at
the 300 mark.

I've just been wondering for awhile now if
it's just a 375-H&H "THING" as in these
guns just prefer solids or heavy jacketed
bullets or if it is just my gun that is a
picky eater and throws a tantrum like a
brat toddler if I don't feed it solids or
the Woodleighs that it likes.

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Posted: May 27 2018 at 12:27pm | IP Logged Quote turbo1889

Oh, yah, probably should say what exactly
my 375-H&H is shouldn't I?

Pawn shop find a decade or so back. 1950s
vintage FN Mauser with that some previous
owner had added a Lyman adjustable
appature sight to the rear of the receiver
that co-witnesses with the original notch
leaf sight forward of the receiver on the
rear of the barrel, plus hooded the front
sight and ground the front blade down
thinner then original. Looks like a Bubba
job, but Bubba did a good job and it does
give a very nice iron sights picture that
works well with my eyes.

It also has a magazine cut-off which is
either factory or a very good gun Smith
job.

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turbo1889 wrote:
I've just been wondering for awhile now if it's just a 375-H&H "THING" as in these
guns just prefer solids or heavy jacketed
bullets or if it is just my gun that is a
picky eater and throws a tantrum like a
brat toddler if I don't feed it solids or
the Woodleighs that it likes.


I think it's your rifle. And I haven't a clue why. I've got two 375's (long story why) and they both like the conventional lead core, jacketed bullets.

Ah well. Cool cartridge to mess with for sure. It's got 100+ years of history. An excellent track record on beasts of all size. And it's just cool... :) I've been really impressed with the accuracy potential too!

Regards, Guy
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BTW, 1950's FN Mauser in 375 H&H pretty much shouts "COOL"

What a great rifle!
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I like it, but as far as screaming "COOL"
if I tore her down and refinished both the
stock and reblued her, then maybe. She
was obviously a working gun in her former
life and she basically screamed "just
another old beat up Mauser" when I found
her. I cleaned her up since then but she
could really stand to have her stock
sanded down, dents steamed out, and then
refinished, that would go a long way
towards restoring her to her former glory,
and then some of her bluing shows what I
think is scabbord wear, probably a lot of
miles on horse back by the rubbing wear
patterns. Maybe someday I'll get around
to it, so many projects, so little time
and money !!!

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I'm jealous. I need to get a .375 H&H someday. It's always sounded like a lot of fun. I do own a .458 Win Mag now and it's a hoot, but way too big and heavy to do much with besides punch holes in paper from a bench. One day the right deal on a rifle will come along. I'm set up for casting for .38-55, so I'd basically just need a set of dies and some brass. One day.

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richhodg66 wrote:
I'm jealous. I need to get a .375 H&H someday. It's always sounded like a lot of fun. I do own a .458 Win Mag now and it's a hoot, but way too big and heavy to do much with besides punch holes in paper from a bench. One day the right deal on a rifle will come along. I'm set up for casting for .38-55, so I'd basically just need a set of dies and some brass. One day.


I think you'd like the 375 H&H. With full-power loads it has nowhere near the recoil of a 458 Win mag. Yet it has excellent penetration and a great "track record" afield.

Trajectory is similar to that of a 30-06 too, so it's a viable cartridge for hunting at 300 yards. I had no problem making a one-shot kill at a tad over 300 yards on a black bear a few years ago.

And handloaders, as always, can make a cartridge far more versatile. I've loaded some real wimpy loads for it too, that just make ya chuckle when shooting them.

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I have two rifles in .375 caliber, a Ruger M77 chambered to the .375
Taylor AKA .375 Chatfield-Taylor and .375/338 Magnum. Does exactly
everything the .375 H&H does in a 30-06 length action. Rifle weighs 7.5
pound and yes, recoil is a tad stout. It's a rifle you carry a lot and shoot
little. I built it for black timber elk hunts. Brass is easy to make make.
Just run .338 Win. Mag brass through the resizing died and you've got
brass. I've made brass from 7MM Rem. Mag., 338 Win. Mag. and .458
Win. Mag. I like working with the .458 best, just a pass through the die
and a quick run with a trimmer, just enough to square off the necks.
Groups with the 270 gr. and both .300 gr. Hornady's all shoot into
about one inch. Combine groups with all three loads runs just about
1.5 to 2" when I'm shooting good. Extreme spread run 5FPS with the
270 gr. bullet and 5 or 6 FPS depending on which 300 gr. bullet I'm
shooting.

The other is a Ruger #1. I shoot it with a 270 gr. Cast bullet at about
2100 FPS. Recoil is about like a 220 gr. load from a 30-06. It's an
accurate load and has just enough recoil to make rapid reload practice
practical.
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Posted: June 02 2018 at 8:04am | IP Logged Quote M700

Paul - did you send me some cast bullets for the 375 several years ago?

I came across them not long ago, in my "gun room" and was trying to remember how I got them! All I could remember was that someone sent them to me.

If so, thank you!

Guy
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