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Posted: July 01 2018 at 1:05pm | IP Logged Quote M700

Basic Handgun class this morning. Nice lady brings her brand new, nearly $700, Ruger SP 101 38 Special revolver.


I teach her how to shoot with one of my 22 semi-auto pistols. She's doing fine.


Grabs the Ruger, hits the target okay for a shot or two, then can't pull the trigger. After she struggles with it a bit, I ask to shoot it. Bang. Bang. No-Go. Cylinder wont' turn, can't pull the trigger. Bummer. Not what one wants in a self-defense type handgun, not at all!


So we finish up the training with her using my old S&W Model 19, which she really liked. Class is over now, I'm home, she's at the store where she bought it, trying to work something out. BTW, she got pretty doggone good with my 22 pistol.


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Posted: July 01 2018 at 1:57pm | IP Logged Quote LAH

Plenty of bad threads on Ruger across the net.

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Posted: July 01 2018 at 2:12pm | IP Logged Quote STCM(SW)

Hey, even Rolls Royce has a lemon some times...

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You may be correct but I'm not round many Rolls.

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Posted: July 01 2018 at 3:17pm | IP Logged Quote Rex

I had a bad experience with a .22/45 pistol and Ruger repair. All I own from them now is an older 10-22 rifle, it works fine.

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Posted: July 01 2018 at 3:30pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

I'll reserve comment other than I'm not surprised.....

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Posted: July 01 2018 at 3:32pm | IP Logged Quote STCM(SW)

Rugers I have are a 10/22, SS Vaquero 45 Colt.

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Posted: July 01 2018 at 3:51pm | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

I have several Ruger revolvers and never a bit of trouble with any of them, this comes as a surprise to me.

I never have cared much for the 10/22, but will say it is the ONLY current .22 autoloader I'd count on to be reliable. I was a fan of the good old Remington Nylon 66, but alas, it is no longer made.

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My experiences with Rugers have led me to the point that I don't even look at them or bother to read posts about how great they are.

My last Ruger was a 10/22 I had bought used to put a suppressed barrel on, but never did so I gave it to my son to play around with. It already had the scope mount attached, apparently with loc-tite, so he put a scope on it and couldn't get any scope zeroed in. He gave it back to me, so I put a scope on it to figure out what was wrong with it. At twenty five yards it shot two yards to the left with the scope adjusted all the way to the right, I shimmed it and got it lined up perfectly. I let my granddaughter shoot it and she hated it, it was a lot less accurate than my Marlin 99C and even way worse than my Marlin 81TS.

I miss my old Apache Black Nylon 66, it was a tack driver. But I don't need a semi-auto bad enough to ever want a 10/22.
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My latest Ruger belonged to my youngest daughter but it
was made in the 80s so I have no experience with later
stuff other than a few SRH 44 mags which where plenty
accurate & one SBH Hunters all pre 2000.

But my other Rugers, two 45 Colts & one 357 have zero
problems other than I replaced the base pin on the 357.

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Posted: July 01 2018 at 5:20pm | IP Logged Quote Abram

I own 4 Rugers, A SR1911, GP100, VLE and American Predator, all run just fine and all are accurate. I wonder if she cleaned and lubed the gun prior to bringing it to class.
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My last Ruger was a 1911 "Night Watchman" commander that I ordered sight unseen a couple of years ago. The trigger pull was heavy and creepy, safety didn't snap positively, the barrel bushing was loose both in the slide and very loose on barrel to the tune of .004". The rifling had obvious machining grooves on the lands on the breech end. Sent it back to Ruger with detailed letter. Gun was returned quickly but the only issue they addressed was the mushy safety and they said it met their accuracy standards... Not mine! I really thought they'd have replaced the flawed barrel and sloppy bushing.

So...I ordered an Ed Brown "drop in" barrel bushing (.581" instead of .584" that was on there) and had local smith clean up the trigger pull. I like the night sights and the gun is now reasonably accurate and function is 100% reliable. It's my "beater woods gun" now, a sidearm that could get a scuff or scratch and it wouldn't bother me.

I have other Rugers that are just fine but the bottom line for me is I would never again buy from Ruger without looking it over first.

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Posted: July 01 2018 at 7:39pm | IP Logged Quote Rifleman 52

My 38 special/357 mag, New Model Ruger did the same thing
to me. I flew it back to their repair shop, I paid one
way, and they fixed it. Only shot about 3000 rds, was
surprised it failed. Now my 44-40 Vaquero has shot over
12,000 rds, and never failed me.
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Posted: July 02 2018 at 6:53am | IP Logged Quote M700

I'll ask her what the store offered to do about it.

Disappointed that the Ruger failed her. It's the only gun she's ever bought, in 60 years of life, and she kind of expected it to work...

Ah well. I've only sent one Ruger rifle to them for repair, the extractor needed to be replaced on a Number One single shot. Ruger fixed it for free and sent it back to me quickly. But, I'm a gun-nut, as are all of us here. If one of my guns fails, I just set it aside until I can repair it, or have it repaired, and use another in the meanwhile.

She just wanted a revolver that would actually shoot. And for good reason.

I'll check in with her later today. As policy, the store doesn't do "returns" with firearms, but I'm hoping they make an exception in her case.

My past history with Ruger has been great, rifle or handgun. They've worked well.

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I'm not sure what the problem has been
with some of the junk hitting the shelves
from some of the big names lately. It's
not just Remington, SIG has had some real
lemons as well among others.

I mean seriously, why can't they get their
#$+@#& in gear? I have cheap import no
name guns that haven't skipped a beat in
years. And seriously it isn't like
revolvers of all things it isn't well
known how to get them right for goodness
sake !!!

When the cheap Brazilian imported Rossi
revolvers start getting a better name then
a big long standing company like Remington
somebody needs to get their act in gear!!!

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I have 6 Rugers, 4 handguns and two rifles. Mine are from
1982 up to 2017 production and I have had zero problems
with any. If I had a new revolver that malfunctioned, I'd
look closely at ammo before I condemned the gun...

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mikld wrote:
I have 6 Rugers, 4 handguns
and two rifles. Mine are from
1982 up to 2017 production and I have had
zero problems
with any. If I had a new revolver that
malfunctioned, I'd
look closely at ammo before I condemned
the gun...


True, but it only takes a small percentage
of lemons to gum things up. If for
example a company puts out 10% lemons it's
enough to sink a company regardless of the
90% of the product being just fine.

As far as ammo goes, you might have a
point there, not saying bad ammo but there
are a lot more 38-spl. +P ammo on the
market and also a lot more ultralight 38-
spl. guns on the market that can't handle
+P loads.

Maybe ?????? Might be a possibility.

Still though there have been a lot of
Remington and SIG recalls on recent
production to the point we're there are
now protest T-shirts being sold with
"Recalled" done all up in Remington logo
style on Remington green T-shirts and then
other T-shirts with

Seriosly
Incompetant
Gun Maker

printed on them. So some customers are
upset to say the least. I've also had
some recent annoyances of my own, not with
SIG although I've noticed the hub-hub
going around. Remington though I had some
annoyances from recently, 2017 ammo 22-lr
I bought was nearly 1/3 duds in multiple
guns.

Everyones experience though is going to
differ.

Edited by turbo1889 on July 02 2018 at 1:08pm


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Sorry fellas, it wasn't my ammo that failed, It was my
New Model 357/38 spl...............
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50 years of Rugers, two guns went back to them one was "elective surgery" to have a shorter barrel installed, the other was a rough barrel I did not like. In both cases the customer service was excellent. The second instance the gun was back in my hand within 8 days.

I had a SP 101, in .38 spl.never a problem I shot that gun lots DA/SA and a few of the old Keith high intensity 170 grn, loads. I would still have that gun but I saw a good deal on the 3" GP 100, one more shot..

I can say for a certitude that over that last half century I have had more problems with S&W than Ruger. One glaring example was my newly issued 686, right out of the box I noticed a problem, when the barrel was installed it was canted off to the left, not sure how that ever got past quality control. The 686 went back to Smith and the Security six I had a dispensation for went back in my holster.

If you have a problem with a Ruger, they will fix it and do it quicker than the folks in Springfield.

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Any info on "failure" other than just "failed"? Can the
cylinder be opened freely? Is there any junk in the
action? Was the revolver cleaned before first shooting?I
had a similar problem with an imported revolver and the
cylinder bolt was sticking...

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