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Posted: July 04 2018 at 3:50pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Well gents, the way I figure it every handgun I got is no
good. With all the threads blowin' round here about this
'n that, my shooters are plumb rotten!
All I got is old style single action revolvers, S&W
double actions revolvers, 'n a single action 45ACP
1911A1. None of them are Rugers. None are enormous
magnumized super-canons. No SA/DA Striker fired zip-guns
made outta plastic. Nope, why I even got close to half a
dozen revolvers that ya gotta load with loose black
powder, ball, and fired by percussion caps! My word! I'm
so far out of touch I best surrender now and avoid the
chance of being boycotted for not having the newest and
the latest super shooter!
Yeah, call David Hogg 'n tell 'im he can forget worrying
about me. All my handguns are just plain out of date! I'm
not a threat even to an angry gopher!

Well I reckon its time for me to go mosey around the
woods with one of my seriously outdated and underpowered
antiques I carry. Gosh, if I run into anything out there
that looks mean 'n ugly I best wet my pants 'n get it
over with. We all know my ancient armament will be
of no use!

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Posted: July 04 2018 at 4:43pm | IP Logged Quote RT58

Old Timer guns are just fine Wade, as long as you shoot them like an Old Timer.

It's never the gun that wins a gunfight, it's the nut behind the trigger.
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Posted: July 04 2018 at 6:51pm | IP Logged Quote John P.

I am sure that you shoot those cap and ball revolvers or that old M&P
better than most shoot their Glocks.



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Posted: July 04 2018 at 7:17pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Well I've won my share of gunfights that's for sure. But
guys they were with DA revolvers and G.I. 45ACP Colt
autos. Reckon I'm lucky to have lived to tell the tale
considering them out of date shootin' irons!

But I did get shot once in a fracus with a feller with
another junk gun. But I won than 'n too. Just
imagine how better it woulda been with a super-deluxe-
mega-monster-canon-.65 magnum Womper-Stompper with a
500gr JHP and 3000FPS!
Gotta get me one. I hear ya gotta register them with NASA
as it's got rocket fuel and not gunpowder.

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Posted: July 04 2018 at 7:20pm | IP Logged Quote Rex

I'd like to buy a cap and ball revolver but at my age I'll probably never get around to it.
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Posted: July 04 2018 at 7:35pm | IP Logged Quote turbo1889

Old Ranger, your guns do have an advantage
over the newer stuff in at least one
point. Namely, that they are proven
designs that everything has already been
figured out on them. As I mentioned in
the DA auto thread the problem with the
newfangled guns it that they often don't
have all the kinks worked out yet. The
only reason a double action revolver would
have a crappy trigger is due to laziness
on the part of the manufacturer, how to
make good triggers on such guns had the
kinks ironed out long, long ago. Where as
with the newfangled autos crappy DA
triggers are rather a case of them not
totally nailing down how to make good ones
consistently yet.

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Posted: July 04 2018 at 7:50pm | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

Not much of a pistolero, and don't own many autos, zero DA autos. Most of mine are revolvers with a mix of SA and DA. But I do like my Rugers.

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Posted: July 04 2018 at 8:18pm | IP Logged Quote doghawg

Wade, I don't have much interest in cap and ball but share your preferences on 1911's, Smith's and SA revolvers. There are even a few really solid Rugers in the safe.    But the latest tupperware creations adorning the gun magazine covers that the gun writers are all gushing over.....Nope....They just don't make the juices flow. They are IMO just tools...tools that work but still, just tools.

Of course, I am about the same age as you and about as unlikely to change.    

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Posted: July 04 2018 at 9:00pm | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Some of this was tongue in cheek. Yeah, I have been in
some scrapes as a cop and a lot more as a soldier where
it was me or them. But as to the body of this thread,
guess I was poking fun at "the gizmo guns" and hyper
velocity loads. It was a gag post of sorts or I was going
to throw my phone across the room! Every single weapon I
own has been maligned or stated as ineffective or flat
out useless. And I took a page from my uncle Leo saying
"How many gunfight you been in?" when he'd hear someone
say his old 45 Colt SAA was obsolete and useless. Like
Leo, I've had my share. Recon I'm getting grumpy in my
old age.

Cap & ball wheelguns are what I started out with. Cut my
teeth on a '51 Navy. Leo told me his father carried a
brace of ivory handled 51s and was flat out dangerous
with 'em. My great great grandfather, a Captain in the
5th Texas Cav fighting in the War of Northern Aggression.
So I guess I come by it naturally.

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Posted: July 04 2018 at 10:18pm | IP Logged Quote STCM(SW)

"My great great grandfather, a Captain in the
5th Texas Cav fighting in the War of Northern Aggression."

This week was the anniversary of Lee going into the small market town of Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. It began as a skirmish but by its end involved 160,000 Americans.

I don't think Pennsylvania is south of the Mason Dixon line......

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Posted: July 04 2018 at 10:47pm | IP Logged Quote turbo1889

Oh Lordy !!! Here we go!

Can we play "cowboys and gun grabbers"
instead of "North and South" ?

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Posted: July 05 2018 at 6:23am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

I misspoke. He was my great grandfather. Oops, always get
tripped up with that stuff. That's what I get for
thinking in two languages!

Randy, you're right, we're a might too old to go changin'
I think.

Rex, percussion revolvers are in a league of their own.
You develop specific skills with them that will
definitely set you apart from the others.

Oh, aside from my great grandfather, his two brothers
were in the 4th Texas Inf. under Gen. Hood. And I did
have another family member from Ohio in the 3rd US
Cavalry. So both sides were covered.

[And that sure ain't the flag of Bolivia or Disneyland to
the left of my writing either. ]

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Posted: July 07 2018 at 10:04am | IP Logged Quote M700

Wade - almost all I shoot are S&W double-action revolvers and 1911 design semi-autos.

Except for Ruger's 22/45 which has been a terrific training pistol & grouse-getter. I've shot that one an awful lot, and have trained dozens of new shooters with it.

There is a little 9mm Kahr that has become my "hideout" gun. So easy to conceal, so reliable. It sure is different from my 1911's, but I don't seem to have any trouble adapting.

I think your handguns are just fine. They seem to suit you well.

S&W double-actions & 1911's for me. Yup!

My favorite revolver, 2.5" 357 Model 19:


My favorite semi-auto, 5" 45 1911 Kimber:


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Posted: July 07 2018 at 10:27am | IP Logged Quote Old Ranger

Well I was kinda poking fun at all the newfangled doo-dad
guns and monster calibers so many are mesmerized by.
But in actuality I am a man out of time.
Shucks, even my 1911A1 rides in a black leather G.I. flap
holster from when I was in Vietnam, hung on an O.D.
canvas pistol belt to boot! Oh well, don't mean nuthin'
right?

Carry on.
Smoke if ya got 'em......

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Posted: July 07 2018 at 5:29pm | IP Logged Quote LAH

Of all handguns I've used the DA S&W is my
favorite. I'm a sixgun man at heart.

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Posted: July 07 2018 at 5:57pm | IP Logged Quote REM1875

Ain't nothing wrong with New .......Bigger ... or Badder
otherwise we all still be shooting hand cannons on a stick
loaded with rocks and lite with a fuze .....even those
colts- BP, SAA and 1911 were new technology at one time.

There is a damned good reason our ancestors gave up the bow
and spear for fights.

I for one am interested in firearms new and old and y'all
experience with em......
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Posted: July 07 2018 at 6:45pm | IP Logged Quote KinleyWater

Clearly you are correct, Wade. Here is a pic I took of me cleaning my latest woods gun...






If I end up in bear country, though, I'll need something with a bit more punch.

Edited by KinleyWater on July 07 2018 at 6:46pm


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Some how I don't see you cleaning a 16" 50 in blues with the old flat top cover....



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Tell em Master Chief ....piping on the jumper is for
getting snokered on shore leave.... I bet flat tops were
even before your time .......


Kinley
Where can I get one of those at a reasonable price ?
You got any reloading data on them ???

Ya just never know when Texas will open up a Mastodon
season and I want to be ready



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Well, I got mine direct from the manufacturer; Ruger, of course, because we all know they make the biggest bore, most toughest, most reliable shooting irons this side of Mars.

I hear there's a used market too, so I would check want ads for Watervliet NY and Dalghren, VA.

As for load data: You have to be careful and know which model you have. I can't stress that enough. The older 3 screw MKII-A "Navy" model, you're limited to 672 pounds of gun cotton with a 2100 pound projectile. For the larger MKII and MKIII "Army" models, produced after Elmer Kieth demonstrated the true potential of the gun, can handle up to 832 pounds with a 2340 pound projectile.



This thread did get me thinking, though, about a couple of things. First up, handguns, of course. I own not many, and of them, three are DA revolvers (two being Smiths), two are 1911 patterns, and 2 are striker fired whizzbangs. Okay, I also have an AR-Pistol. Each one has a place, and each one fills it well. I would, of course, like to upgrade my better half's little S&W snubbie as it is not +P rated and I would like to at least have the option.

I used to carry my wonder 9 exclusively, but since I got my very own 1911 (the other one belongs to the wife), I have started to carry that more and more. Really, it doesn't matter what you carry as long as you can hit what you're aiming at and you are confident in it.

The second thing is in talking about great grandfathers, and certain wars defined by clothing color. Some time ago, I was thinking about my father, who was born in 1940. He was born 75 years after the end of the aforementioned war. In the time leading up to his birth, we expanded west, gained up to 48 states. We developed powered flight, the automobile, and radio. By the time he had turned 75, we had color television, landed a man on the moon, added Alaska and Hawaii as states, and invented the internet (dubious achievement). It is truly remarkable the things we did in so short a period of time.

Edited by KinleyWater on July 08 2018 at 6:10am


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