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Posted: July 23 2018 at 10:53pm | IP Logged Quote turbo1889

LAH wrote:
I always wanted a 35 on the
30/30 case maybe in a single
shot.


35-30, had one for awhile that was an old
Winchester 30-30 lever gun that a previous
owner had rebored out to 35-cal. One of
the oldest wilcat rounds in the books and
a darn good one. It's noticeably quieter
then a 30-30 and hits with more thump and
of course is a wonder with cast bullets.
Brass is easy to make although one does
get a few split necks if one tries to
fireform straight from 30-30 by literally
just pulling the trigger on 30-30 rounds
which was the method recommended to me by
the guy I bought it from and at the time I
was young enough to go with it. Doing it
properly with annealed cases and a proper
fireforming load of cream of wheat as I
now know would probably result in nearly a
100% success rate.

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Posted: July 24 2018 at 6:59am | IP Logged Quote REM1875

I am using 180 and 200 grain (cast and jacketed) in my 357
maxi with excellent performance. Will try some out in the
35 Rems later this year hopefully ......
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Posted: July 24 2018 at 7:03am | IP Logged Quote John Van Gelder

That bullet should work with .38 spl data for the 200 grn bullet, might be a bit too long for .357.

Here is a link to an article by Glen Fryxell about a 250 grn bullet. The section on the .38 spl loads should work.

Lyman 358627
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Posted: July 24 2018 at 8:38am | IP Logged Quote REM1875

Thanks John
Very interesting
I still want a 35 Whelen


It's on "the list"
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Posted: July 24 2018 at 9:13am | IP Logged Quote twillis

Had I known you had the mould I might still have a 35 Remington lever.

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richhodg66 wrote:
How deep do you have to seat it to get
it to feed in the .357 lever gun?


In a Winchester 94 AE I just seat it to the crimp groove
They feed fine   Joe

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Posted: July 24 2018 at 11:38am | IP Logged Quote John Van Gelder

I was going to build a ,35 Whelen, had a Douglas barrel, I got at a bargain price, just could not find an action to fit. I traded the barrel and a few bucks for a nice old Remington bolt action .30-06,
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Posted: July 24 2018 at 12:51pm | IP Logged Quote LAH

twillis wrote:
Had I known you had the mould I might
still have a 35 Remington lever.


If I live long enough I might take loan of it for a
summer.

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Posted: July 24 2018 at 6:15pm | IP Logged Quote RT58

It's nice when a shorter factory case is a perfect fit for a too long bullet. I shoot 7.62x39 bullets out of a Taurus model 76 .32 mag. using .32 Long brass.

I tried shooting RCBS 41/300/FN bullets out of a Marlin .41 mag. crimped in the groove but they were a little too long to feed through the action and had to be fed one at a time.
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Posted: July 25 2018 at 3:01am | IP Logged Quote REM1875

RT58 wrote:
It's nice when a shorter factory case is a
perfect fit for a too long bullet. I shoot 7.62x39 bullets
out of a Taurus model 76 .32 mag. using .32 Long brass.

I tried shooting RCBS 41/300/FN bullets out of a Marlin .41
mag. crimped in the groove but they were a little too long
to feed through the action and had to be fed one at a time.


RT58

Might want to try 41 Spl brass
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Posted: July 25 2018 at 11:30am | IP Logged Quote RT58

Rem, I cut some brass down to fit. A local caster started casting 295 gr. bullets for .41's and I started shooting those. He closed up last year due to health issues, then passed away. I don't shoot heavy bullets, or my lever actions, much anymore but might cast some of the RCBS bullets again someday. I have a lot of lead bullets my wife is trying to get me to shoot off first.

I cut .41 mag. brass down to several lengths a while back, down to as far as my .41AE dies would seat. I wanted to see if it was better to make it like the other magnums that could shoot various shorter calibers or just load the full length brass with lighter charges. Now I have a collection of shortened brass for other experiments.


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Posted: July 25 2018 at 12:33pm | IP Logged Quote REM1875

RT58

Just a reference.
.41 Spl
1.145 - 1.155 O.A.L.

I think I loaded mine with 6 grs unique (170 gr to 210
jacketed and cast) and was very pleased at how it reached
out and smacked stuff without the 41 mag recoil and
penetration.
Cycled through my henry lever action without a glitch.

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Posted: July 25 2018 at 6:10pm | IP Logged Quote RT58

Rem, You can load full length .41 mag. brass to any level you want. I did find that the shorter the brass got the poorer the accuracy got.

My favorite reduced loads are 8.0 grains of Unique for 185-220 gr. lead bullets for "service" loads and 4 grains of Bullseye for target loads.

Using shorter brass does require less powder but I don't think the loss of accuracy is worth it. I save the shorter brass for when I have to use it.
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Posted: July 25 2018 at 6:58pm | IP Logged Quote turbo1889

@RT58

The bullet in question is of too long of
length to fit in a standard length
revolver cylinder or cycle through a lever
action rifle if you crimp in the crimp
groove.

That is why they are discussing using
shorter length brass with this bullet and
other similar long length bullets. Not
for reduced load reasons.

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Posted: July 26 2018 at 7:35am | IP Logged Quote RT58

Thanks Turbo, I started the conversation of using shorter brass with longer bullets.

The reduced load information was for Rem1875's last post.
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Posted: July 26 2018 at 10:21am | IP Logged Quote twillis

LAH wrote:
twillis wrote:
Had I known you had the mould I might
still have a 35 Remington lever.


If I live long enough I might take loan of it for a
summer.


My son still has one. Perhaps we could talk him out of it for a summer.

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Posted: July 26 2018 at 11:04am | IP Logged Quote REM1875

I have my dads Marlin 336 from the 1950's it kicks like a
mule and has a longer barrel that the new ones ........I
have a pump Remington 141 and it does not seem to kick as
bad .....
I have loaded some LEVERevolution bullets and powder i
seriously need to test .......
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twillis wrote:
LAH wrote:
twillis wrote:
Had I known
you had the mould I might
still have a 35 Remington lever.


If I live long enough I might take loan of it for a
summer.


My son still has one. Perhaps we could talk him out of it
for a summer.


That might be hard.

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Posted: July 27 2018 at 4:31am | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

LAH wrote:
twillis wrote:
Had I known you had the mould I might
still have a 35 Remington lever.


If I live long enough I might take loan of it for a
summer.


This fella, JES, in Oregon has made a career out of reboring rifles to bigger calibers, boring old .270s and .30-06s to .35 Whelen seems to be his bread and butter and I have heard nothing but rave reviews about results and turn around is quick. If you wanted that old Remington to be a good .35 Whelen, $250 and two or three weeks is all it takes.

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Posted: July 27 2018 at 6:11am | IP Logged Quote John Van Gelder

My days of longing for a .35 Whelen, have come and gone, nothing here that the 06 wont take care of.
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