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Posted: August 04 2018 at 4:21pm | IP Logged Quote doghawg

I've been watching for a blued Henry single shot in .44 mag for a long time but the only singles I'm seeing on Gun Broker have been .223, .243, and .308. Local dealers can't find any .44's.
A .44 finally showed up on GB on a penny auction so I threw in a playful bid just for the heck of it.....and won! Retail is $448 and usually they are listed for $359 and up and I didn't expect much with a bid under $300.
I've got an old Leupold 3X that needs a home and thinking a little single shot might be fun with cast bullet loads. We shall see.

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Congrats I have a Golden Boy in 44 Mag good shooting rifle I have not shot lead in mine does well with Hornady or Nosler 240gr. Randy
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Posted: August 04 2018 at 9:20pm | IP Logged Quote Tom W.

All of my rifles are single shots except my 10/22. Try a
Lee 310 cast and see how you like it. I have a SRH that
has never seen a factory bullet since i bought it, just
cast handloads.

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Posted: August 04 2018 at 11:18pm | IP Logged Quote REM1875

When Ruger reintroduced the M-77 bolt action back in 44 mag
or 357 I decided on the M-77 357.
The options for a wood stock on the M-77 44 were tempting.

Most of my single shots are 45-70.....I got one of those
baby rolling blocks in 45-70 I am trying to work up the
courage to shoot.

Interested in how you like that Henry ?

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Posted: August 05 2018 at 1:31pm | IP Logged Quote doghawg

I've got the 310 Lee and also a 320 gr. LBT LFN. The single shot has a 1 in 20" twist which should do well with the bigger cast bullets.
Can't say much about how I'll like it but hope to have it later this week. I've handled two of these rifles so far....a .308 and a .243....well made and nicely finished but I'm hoping this one will have a better trigger pull than either of them.

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I like single shots. I've hunted quite a bit with then since 1975 until 2010.
These days I only hunt elk on a private ranch and the ranch owner and
outfitter do not allow single shot rifles. I've taken el since 2010, 2012,
2013, 1014, 2015, missed 2016 because of my wife's illness and took
another in 2017. The one in 2014 was taken with a 30-06 and ll the rest
with a .35 Whelen. All one shot kills. The ones that needed a finisher
were too badly hurt to even get back up.
I have Ruger #1's ranging from .22 Hornet to .416 Rigby. Even have one
of those CHIPS commemoratives in .357 magnum. They only made 500
of them. It wears an old El Paso Weaver 3X with post and crosshair.
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Posted: August 07 2018 at 6:07pm | IP Logged Quote Buffalogun

Randy,

My Marlin 1894 .44 Mag has a groove diameter of .431" with a 1 in 38" twist rate. It stabilizes bullets up to the length of LEE's .310 gc bullet just fine.

I would slug the bore of that Henry and then you'll know where to begin with your cast bullets.


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Posted: August 07 2018 at 7:36pm | IP Logged Quote doghawg

Paul B.

I agree with you on single shots. After 50 some years of hunting I can only think of a couple of times where the first shot didn't get the job done. My one and only bull elk was taken with a .338/06 AI....about the same horsepower as your .35 Whelen.

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The gun will be here Thursday and there are about a half dozen different loads in the cabinet already loaded for revolvers. Also a lot of bullets ranging from 200 gr. Lee on up to 320 gr. LBT already cast. I hope not to need anything "fatter" than .431" and have sizers in .429" .430" and .431". If it needs more diameter I could try powder coating a .431". When I get around to slugging the bore I'll post the results.

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Posted: August 09 2018 at 6:16pm | IP Logged Quote doghawg

I picked it up today and am impressed with the fit and finish. Also hard to believe what a nicely figured piece of wood they used on what is a relatively low priced gun. I can't shoot it tomorrow because my wife insists I take her fishing... "Yes dear...Whatever you say dear..."

The one fly in the soup is the heavy trigger pull. It had a little creep in the pull when I first tried it but after a few dry fires (manual doesn't say anything about that) and cycling it a quite a few times by cocking and lowering hammer I noticed the trigger was breaking clean...must have been a burr somewhere in there. Eventually she's gonna get a trigger job but it's usable for now.

I'll try to get a picture posted this weekend.

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Posted: August 09 2018 at 6:29pm | IP Logged Quote REM1875

doghawg

What ??? You got another fishing rifle ???
Sounds like this one would do the trick .......


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Posted: August 19 2018 at 6:28pm | IP Logged Quote doghawg

I apologize for not posting a pic of this gun. I'm kind of disgusted with the trigger pull and planning to call Henry and see if they can do something to clean it up and lighten it. My trigger pull gauge only goes up to 4 1/2 pounds and it takes a LOT of concentration to try shooting offhand at a swinger with a pull that I'm guessing is around 8 lbs.

Randy

Edit....Besides the trigger pull....the buttstock is loose and I'm planning to find out for myself if Henry's customer service is as good as people say. I've not been having much luck with new guns lately.

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Posted: August 19 2018 at 9:32pm | IP Logged Quote turbo1889

Have to chime in here on the single shot
rifle thing. So long as it's a quick
action (break action being my personal
favorite) I totally agree that they are
more then enough. I have a hard time
understanding a property owner who won't
let people hunt with a single shot. If I
were a property owner I might actually
REQUIRE single shots to be used.
Seen way too many hunters in my day who
don't take the proper care with their shot
because they think they will just shoot
again if they make a bad shot.

Besides with a good break action that I
have practiced enough with I can break the
action crisply tossing the empty up in the
air over my shoulder and slip a fresh
shell in, snap the action closed, re-
shoulder the gun, get on target and fire a
second shot BEFORE THE EMPTY HITS
THE GROUND !!!


Went duck hunting one year with some
friends and brought my single shot H&R
10ga. which is the same gun that I have a
second barrel for that is a 12ga. rifled
slug bull barrel so I am very practiced
with that gun since it is my primary
hunting gun for many years now and I cast
and load my own full bore slugs for it and
do a lot of practice shooting with it.

Well, when they saw me show up with that
single shot break action gun they kind of
smiled and snickered a little. Going home
after the hunt they weren't snickering
anymore. One of them said he was actually
kind of scared of me and would never want
to ever make me mad when I had that gun on
me, he had no idea anyone could load and
shoot a single shot like that. But it's
not me, almost anyone can learn to shoot a
single shot break action like that. It's
just a matter of practice and muscle
memory and the wonders of a good leather
cartridge bandolier that always hangs the
same way so you can grab a shell without
having to look.

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Posted: August 24 2018 at 9:02pm | IP Logged Quote doghawg

The little single shot is back at the Henry factory. After a couple of trips to the range I decided I can't live with the trigger pull which I'm guessing is around 8 to 9 lbs. After 50 rounds or so the buttstock was getting loose so I figured I'll give Henry a chance to get it right. To be continued....

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Let us know how Henry handles this. The reviews of Henry seem all over the map. I do like the looks of the single shots very much. Nothing seems to handle and point better than a break open single shot, rifle or shotgun.

Turbo's post about the speed with which they can be shot is true. I have an old Savage 94 in 16 gauge I enjoy a lot, I squirrel hunt with it. Last Winter, I sat down in my favorite spot and had five or six scatter all from about the same spot on a big cottonwood tree and managed to get three of them and I'm not practiced at loading it fast. The break opens seem looked down upon, but shot for shot, I seem to b better off with one.

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"Have to chime in here on the single shot
rifle thing. So long as it's a quick
action (break action being my personal
favorite) I totally agree that they are
more then enough. I have a hard time
understanding a property owner who won't
let people hunt with a single shot. If I
were a property owner I might actually
REQUIRE single shots to be used.
Seen way too many hunters in my day who
don't take the proper care with their shot
because they think they will just shoot
again if they make a bad shot."

A bit of an update on that subject. I have had several discussions with
the outfitter and asked him to question his guides on whether or not I
should be allowed to use my single loader. I've hunted with several of
his guides, and three hunts were with the same guide so they all know
whether I can shoot or not. I outfitter is convinced that I should be
allowed to use my Ruger #1 for my next hunt but he has yet to
convince the ranch people.
Hell! I'm not even sure I can do a hunt this year as my outfitter is all
booked up for the season. All I can hope for now is if somebody
cancels out. Otherwise, I stay home this year. BUMMER!!!!!
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I got some good advice about how to reload my Ruger Number One in a hurry. Made up some dummy ammo and practiced. I'm actually very pleased with how fast I can get off a second and third shot with that 375 H&H.

Followed up another hunter's wounded black bear, into the thick stuff. I could hear that danged bear breathing before I could see him! Finally got a shot and I had that Number One reloaded so doggone fast!

I'm still more comfortable with a bolt action or lever action for quick follow-up shots, but yes, with a little work a single-shot can be pretty quick too.

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I was pretty fast w/ my Ruger #1B in 7mm RemMag. I sold it
but still have my #1 in 30-06 a.i. Truthfully, and not
bragging, there is seldom a need for a second shot.

I've never shot anything but paper with my N.E.F 30/30,
but my youngest son has fired three rounds from it so fast
one would think he was shooting a lever action.

Back a few years ago there was a limit of two deer a day
in Alabama, one of each sex or two does. My son had found
a way, even at his young age, to get those killing shots
off before the deer had a chance to disperse. We used to
joke with him about not going hunting, but going
"harvesting."

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Your son has the right idea! I
would consider it a high compliment if
someone made jokes about me along those
lines.

Unfortunately, my main problem is not so
much hitting the game but rather finding
it and successfully sneaking in close
enough to get a shot.

I usually fill all my tags every year but
it is more a matter of determined
presistence. Look hard enough long enough
you will find the game and work on
sneaking up close enough for a shot and
eventually you will win a round rather
then the deer.

Don't get me wrong, it's not like I got no
bush craft, but the deer I hunt are darn
smart and the does are as much or more
used to being hunted as the bucks and are
just as wearry, not to mention I tend to
hunt some of the same areas year after
year.

I'm convinced that at least one of the
older does in one of those spots I hunt
knows me specifically and knows that I
personally and specifically am hunting her
and the other deer and have mainly doe
tags. I thought I had her cornered a
couple years back in a corner with an
unclimable cliff wall on one side and an
open field on the other and I moved in to
press her where she was hiding in the
brush so she would have to make a run for
it across the open field and I would have
a shot and she managed to evade me my
crawling on a parallel to my path moving
in on her. She had to crawl towards me to
one side to pull it off, when I got back
on her tracks I could clearly see where
she had gotten down and I could see in the
snow in her tracks where she had gotten
down low and had her belly dragging in the
snow to stay in the cover of the low
brush.

It makes a man humble when he has a deer
do that to him. Yah I get it, I was in
her home and she knew her home better then
I did and she was playing the game with
her life in the balance where as I was
playing for my dinner. But still, makes a
man humble when he gets outsmarted like
that and it is so clear that his quarry
knew she was outsmarting him. Heck she
might have had one leg sticking up with a
middle hood raised when she crawled
through that brush like that for all I
know.

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Update...The rifle came back today and all they did was tighten the stock bolt and did nothing with the trigger pull. This statement was included as "Supervisory Notes"

"Tightened buttstock. The trigger pull relates to both safety and misfires. We are not going to be able to reduce trigger pull as it is set where it is for safety purposes. If we back down on that we are jeopardizing the safety and proper functionality of the rifle."

I'm not impressed.

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Posted: September 11 2018 at 3:28pm | IP Logged Quote turbo1889

Lawyers, they wreck everything !!!

Although to be fair there is like 10% or
so of the blame on the engineer as well,
it is possible to have a fairly heavy
trigger that is still a good trigger if it
is a smooth trigger with a crisp surprise
break such as a rotary cam type trigger.

Edited by turbo1889 on September 11 2018 at 3:33pm


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