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Posted: August 05 2018 at 4:46am | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

A while back I impulse bought an elephant rifle a guy built in the '50s with the intent of going to Africa someday which never panned out and now he was too old and downsizing his life. Built on a 1917 Enfield action, it's a 13 lb rifle and proportionally large where it counted in the stock comb, so it probably would absorb recoil better than most, but I haven't put it to the recoil test yet.

Anyway, I was messing with it yesterday and loaded some Lyman 457125s, 500 grain round nosed cast, and 18 grains of Unique, which was surprisingly accurate at 100 yards. The rifle has a very good trigger pull, the gentleman who built it knew what he was doing. It is fitted with a Leupold long eye relief 2X scope which isn't the best sighting arrangement, but it works and all that weight sure makes it sit steady on the bench.

What a hoot that thing is! Not really good for anything but punching holes in paper, but it sure is fun and easy to load for. If you're looking for a fun shooter, don't overlook the big bores, they load as cheap and easy as anything else and don't have to beat the snot out of you while you do it if you handload.

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Posted: August 05 2018 at 9:02am | IP Logged Quote STCM(SW)

I had a MK V Weatherby in 416 WBY magnum.
Only shot it at a range a few times and also never went big
game hunting...

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Posted: August 05 2018 at 9:11am | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

Someday, I'll probably load some actual .458 ammo for this and try it, but in no hurry. I'll say that a 500 grain bullet at about 1200 FPS will make sure you notice when it goes off, but not unpleasant.

Tried some of the Lee 500 grain FN with gas checks and the same load just now, did not group as well as the Lymans, which surprised me a bit. I figured the addition of a gas check would help, apparently general wisdom isn't always correct.

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Posted: August 18 2018 at 9:27am | IP Logged Quote Buffalogun

Rich,

I took my buffalo with the LEE 500gr.GC bullet that left my Sharps at a velocity of apprx. 1,600 fps. It is accurate in my rifle and I went on the hunt confident I could put one in the bulls vitals out to 250 yds. I practiced at that distance.

I wound up shooting the critter in the neck at about 65 yds. at the request of the guide.

And, I wouldn't take that rifle and load to the range for an afternoon of plinking.

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Posted: August 19 2018 at 6:50pm | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

Your load is probably a little over Trapdoor level, but not much. Funny how capable it is.

I actually had some of those Lee 500 grainers cast and sized and tried them with the same 18 grains of Unique and was disappointed, they did not grouped as well as the Lyman. It surprised me because the Lees were gas checked, I would have guessed they'd shoot better.

I have a couple of .45-70s, but only hunted with one and it's the only one really suitable for hunting. I've been seriously considering getting one of the CVA single shots and I will have a lever gun chambered for it eventually.



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Buddies is shooting his 50 BMG at 600 yds .....
So he ask if I think I can hit the target* with a 45-70
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hot 330 gr out of guide gun drop way before the target
.......so I try the old trap door and hold over the
target* (my 457gr 500 gr mold throws em out at 560
gr).......nothing...try again nothing .....no dirt... no
dust .....impossible
..
So I reluctantly lower point of aim to top of target
.....dead center at 600yds with a trap door load
......mouth wide open...we repeated it time and time
again......

*1000 yd military target .....

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Posted: September 14 2018 at 7:26am | IP Logged Quote John Van Gelder

One of the guys I worked with in Alaska went on a hunt in Africa, he had a .375, he shot a Cape buffalo with the .375, which seem to have almost no effect, his guide handed him his .458, and that did the trick.
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Posted: September 15 2018 at 3:26am | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

This one of mine will likely never see a hunting trip, just too darn big and heavy and besides, I'll never hunt anything that a .30-06 isn't over kill on anymore.

Saw one of the Remington rifles that are built on 98 actions (798?) recently in a shop chambered in .458. Nice rifle, briefly considered making a trade, but I like this old Enfield, sure is a lot of fun to punch very large holes in paper with.

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Posted: September 16 2018 at 5:43am | IP Logged Quote John Van Gelder

If I want to make big holes in paper, I just pick up a bigger rock put it in my slingshot and let fly, no loud noises and my shoulder doesn't hurt .. :)

However I do have to get pretty close.
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