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Posted: August 15 2018 at 10:58am | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

I am not even sure who makes these as I got them as pull downs. It's just a 115g jhp with something in the hollow point like loose lead. They loaded very nice and I will shoot as I can. Craig
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Posted: August 15 2018 at 3:13pm | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

Ok these are made by Hornady and a few 135g are mixed in with the 115g. I got 500 and loaded 100 to start. Craig

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Posted: August 16 2018 at 4:18am | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

Well I thought the box of bullets was light but after checking more closely I only bought 250 of this round. Most all I have bought from American Reloading has been either 500 or 1000 count but I guess I bought this smaller quantity. Just playing around is all. Craig

p.s. Next up is 124g v-crown!!

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Posted: August 16 2018 at 1:25pm | IP Logged Quote KinleyWater

I don't believe I had seen that site before. Thanks for introducing it. happy loading.

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Posted: August 16 2018 at 3:22pm | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

Yeah I have been using this site for a few years as the prices are very good and shipping has been good. I use Montana Gold for new JHP as they are cheap and good at shipping as well. I like American Reloading for more weird stuff that I can play with. If you get on there mailing list there are specials every like two days or so and you can really save money. Craig

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Posted: August 17 2018 at 6:26am | IP Logged Quote John Van Gelder

I haven't bought a bullet in so long that I was a bit surprised by the prices of commercial bullets.
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Posted: August 17 2018 at 9:07am | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

Yeah John you can't think about buying new bullets and that is why I go to places like American Reloading. With pull downs you are getting new or loaded once and removed but these bullets you really can't tell they were ever loaded. I just like to play with different rounds as I have my favorites that I keep a stock of but still like to try different things. Craig

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Posted: August 18 2018 at 5:45am | IP Logged Quote John Van Gelder

Trying different loads, is why I end up with a number of new molds every year.
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Posted: August 18 2018 at 5:57am | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

I have always loaded jacketed bullets and never got into making my own lead rounds so I have to buy something to reload. I am still at less than half the cost of loaded new rounds. Craig

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Posted: August 18 2018 at 10:40am | IP Logged Quote John Van Gelder

I started loading 50+ years ago, so all of my reloading equipment has paid for itself many times over. With my scrounged lead cast bullets I can load the 9mm for about 6 cents a shot.

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When I was 16, I was gifted several firearms, a .38 Spl. revolver (S&W
Outdoorsman), a Winchester M94 30-30 carbine and a J.C. Higgins
M50 30-06. No way could I afford factory ammo, let alone jacketed
bullets for a handgun. If there were any I never saw them at my local
LGS. A kind gentleman from across the street gave me a casting pot to
use on a stove and a couple of molds and took the trouble to teach me
the ropes. I still remember that old man. I used to watch him cast
bullets when I was younger, his stinky old pipe clenched in his teeth.
He taught me a lot. A little more about him later. None of my .38 Spl.,
357 and .44 mags have ever seen a jacketed bullet except the S&W
629. I shot a deer through the shoulder with it. Found the jacket
embedded in the shoulder blade, the rest of the bullet passing clean
through the deer. The following year I used that same gun and Elmer's
pet load (22.0 gr. 2400/Lyman #429241 bullet) to shoot another deer in
almost the exact same spot (location) and the bullet passed though
both shoulders and is probably still going.
Currently my carry gun is an S&W M60 with Federal 125 gr. HP's but
frankly I'd feel a lot better off with one of my cast bullet loads with 158
gr. SWC.
A lot of lead bullets and Unique have run through my rifle barrels along
with #2400 and H4895. Many targets died as well as a few deer. I used
the 4895 loads on them.
That old gentleman always claimed he was Dutch but I suspect he was
German and during WW2 that was not a particularly liked nationality.
He was into those old Shuetzen matches and those were shot with
plain based bullets. During the war he cast various sized hunting level
bullets and sold them to those who wanted bullets to load and hunt.
He even loaded hunting ammo for some if they furnished the brass. He
once told me, and I have never forgotten this, "If you can make your
own bullets and have a supply of powder and primers, you will always
find a way to do some shooting.
From what I understander, only two cartridges were generally available
to the public during WW2. The .22LR and 30-30. The .22's went to
mainly farmers to protect their crops and the 30-30 to ranchers to
protect livestock from predators. They got them first but some did
trickle down to everyone else on occasion. I got that info from some
old timers that were in the groups I did my first deer hunts with. My
dad got hold of some GI 30-06 and gave them to one of the guys on
the hunt. He said he'd pull the bullets and convert them to .270.
Those were exciting times for me as a kid growing up.
Lesson learned. he who casts his own bullets has a measure of
independence.
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Posted: August 18 2018 at 4:01pm | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

Hey Paul nice post. When I was starting out I bought a Colt Trouper MKIII and shot lead through it to the point of the barrel was black from lead on the inside. A friend said I should shoot some JHP thru it to clean it out and I did and it worked great. Been shooting JHP ever since. Craig

P.S. I am no hunter just a target killer,

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Posted: August 19 2018 at 6:46am | IP Logged Quote John Van Gelder

This is off the mark.. But Paul's story about the "Dutch" guy reminded me.

A friend of a "former" father-in-law. Was "Swiss", my father-in-law, spend most of WWII in a German prison camp, he was a farmer so the German's put him to work on a farm. He always commented the the Germans treated him very well.

There seemed to be some connection between the two back during the war.

I have always thought the fellow who claimed to be Swiss had been a prison camp guard.


Back to it.. bullet technology has changed a lot since the days when I started reloading, back then there wasn't a lot of difference in the performance of cast/jacketed bullets, the new stuff is a different story.

I just loaded up a box of jhp bullets for the 9mm. I have no idea how old those bullets are, they were some I inherited from my father who got them from my uncle.

They are old Hornady 110s and 125s for the .38/357.   

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Posted: August 19 2018 at 1:13pm | IP Logged Quote Paul B.

Desert Eagle41 wrote:
Hey Paul nice post. When I was starting out
I bought a Colt Trouper MKIII and shot lead through it to the point of
the barrel was black from lead on the inside. A friend said I should
shoot some JHP thru it to clean it out and I did and it worked great.
Been shooting JHP ever since. Craig

P.S. I am no hunter just a target killer,


That depends on how much lead there is. If you're shooting one of the
really hot jacketed loads you could run into pressure problems. Back in
the day the best way was to plug the barrel and fill it up with mercury.
You know the stuff that freaks the EPA out like it's the end of the world.
Fill up the barrel and let it stand for a bit, say 5 to 10 minutes. Drain
and then run a tight patch through the bore. Odds are your barrel will
be totally lead free. I did it that way for years as factory ammo for the
.357 only came with soft swaged lead bullet and a gas check. It didn't
take long for the rifling to disappear. I've been shooting my own cast
lead bullets for EXACTLY 64 years today. Started on my 16th birthday
and haven't stopped yet. Bullets cast that day were the Lyman
#311291 (30 cal) and #358165. (38 cal). I still have the molds and they
cast just as good a bullet today as they did way back then.
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Posted: August 19 2018 at 2:18pm | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

Hey Paul you got it! very soft lead 357. It was before I started reloading so was limited on what I was buying. As I remember I only shot 100 or so. but 10 rounds of JHP cleaned it right out. Now 64 years of reloading is very impressive and you got me by 15 years or so. Seems like yesterday. Ha Ha!!   Craig

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Posted: August 20 2018 at 7:00am | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

Tested today and with the Sig I couldn't miss and also shot a Springfield XD that I haven't shot much ,it was a little high on the target but ok in general. Craig

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Posted: August 27 2018 at 9:05am | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

As per my other post I shot the Sig and Smith 5906 and all went great. I am almost out of this round but may get more as they are pull downs at a good price. Craig

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Posted: August 27 2018 at 11:13am | IP Logged Quote Desert Eagle41

Well I guess I only loaded 150 out of 250 as I just loaded the last 100 of these. American reloading doesn't show any of these available but they might later. Plenty of 115g of other types available anyway. See ya   Craig

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