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Posted: August 27 2018 at 4:31pm | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

This actually piggy backs on my thread about realistic practice. I have one or two rifles outfitted with 1" military type slings that I could shoot with though I never do. Been thinking of trying to work with them lately as part of my regimen with that 7x57mm I've been shooting.

Thoughts? Something better out there than the traditional military sling?

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Posted: August 27 2018 at 9:54pm | IP Logged Quote M700

I like and use the traditional leather military sling as a shooting aid. Even if it's just as a "hasty" sling, seldom to I actually build a loop into it while hunting, though I have. My favorite is by Turner.

Last year I took a chance on a "Montana" sling - and my goodness - it has been a real winner for me. Far simpler to adjust than the military sling, it is comfortable, fast to use, and effective. Looks great on the rifle too, made out of heavy duty leather.

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Posted: August 28 2018 at 3:15am | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

Guy, is this what you mean by the Montana Sling? Looks very well made.

https://montanagunslings.com/

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Posted: August 28 2018 at 6:06pm | IP Logged Quote hoghunter

A sling can be an effective tool to provide a more stable platform for field shooting. I used the classic wrap around method and I shot better in the field with it versus no sling.

However after missing a deer of a life time some 20 years ago I began a quest for a more effective field shooting system. I tried bipods in the prone and sitting positions with some improvement but it limited my field of view. I briefly tried a standing bipod which was a significant improvement in field of view wise but less stable.

A fellow varmint hunter introduced me to shooting cross sticks. It was a game changer for me. I added a light weight shooting chair to shoot off which gave me an ever more stable shooting position and higher field of view.

Since I'm a prolific varmint and predator hunter this system was perfect for me. I began using it also deer hunting. I shot two the two largest deer of my hunting career with this system and haven't missed a deer since. I can't say the same for groundhogs or predator - but my kill % increased dramatically. They are a lot smaller target.

My sticks are home made - 1/2 inch solid alumium rod for light weight, bound together with 1/2" velcro with 1/2" heater hose insert over 12" over each rod to protect the stock. They are cut to 42" in length to accomodate my size and for shooting sitting off a chair.

It's very stable system and easily adjustable for elevation in the field. Shooting in the sitting position off my sportsman chair gives me four points of contact, two feet on ground, elbow resting on knees and is very stable.

It might seem cumbersome carrying this set up in the field but it really isn't. I designed a sling for the chair and carry over my left shoulder with the rifle on the other shoulder. I use the sticks as a walking stick. I can even stalk quite effectively with this system.

The only negative is that I practice a lot off them at the range and get a lot weird stares from bench shooters.   

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Posted: August 28 2018 at 7:47pm | IP Logged Quote safari100

All my range practice is off the sticks which is how I hunt. I too get strange looks on the range until I offer people to shoot from then. The looks go to that of understanding.


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Posted: August 29 2018 at 1:31pm | IP Logged Quote M700

richhodg66 wrote:
Guy, is this what you mean by the Montana Sling? Looks very well made.

https://montanagunslings.com/


Yes! And it doesn't hurt that Pat Sinclair is a great guy and a very accomplished hunter.

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Posted: August 29 2018 at 1:37pm | IP Logged Quote M700

Here's the Montana Sling, on my 25-06, opening day last year. I shot from sitting, and the sling helped. Only 212 yards and the rifle was zeroed at 200, so everything worked out great.



At the range before the season, 25-06 & Montana Sling:



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Posted: August 29 2018 at 3:42pm | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

Thanks, Guy. I may just put a military one on my 7x57 I'm working with so much lately and give it a try. Obviously, a rest of some sort is a better solution, but would like to have it as an option and since I'm going to have some kind of sling to carry the rifle with, might as well be one I can use to shoot with.

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Posted: August 30 2018 at 10:33pm | IP Logged Quote M700

Ya, I shoot off a rest whenever I can. Why not?

But the sling is such a nice aid to accuracy... And always there. I always considered learning the use of the sling as part of marksmanship, part of becoming a rifleman.

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Posted: August 31 2018 at 4:50am | IP Logged Quote richhodg66

Interesting story from yesterday. I teach JROTC and coach an air rifle team. I just gave the required CMP class and test and had the first shooting sessions. I start them all out on a familiarization target and had 23 kids, maybe six of which were on the team last year and who I put in the last firing order for the day. We got brand new Crossmans to replace the older Daisy/Avantis, so all of them are fairly new shooters, but when the last firing order came up, one girl asked "sir, can we use slings?" I hadn't planned to, just to let them shoot, but I got the slings out and let them all use them, so good learning point for the new ones too.

It makes a big difference in how steady you are in prone and sitting, kneeling too.

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Posted: August 31 2018 at 9:52am | IP Logged Quote M700

Excellent!

Yes, I'm a big believer re using the sling as a shooting aid. Often I just do the "hasty sling" but there have been a few times when I "looped up" and smacked some critter.

I noticed when bipods started becoming popular that sling use seemed to taper off pretty quickly.

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Posted: September 01 2018 at 8:31am | IP Logged Quote Goldstar225

I favor the military sling for my rifles that will be
used for longer shots. I found early on that my
effective range on squirrels increased substantially when
I was looped up in a sitting position with my back
against a tree. For my deer hunting lever rifles that I
use at closer distances I use a carry strap and use it as
a hasty sling when needed. I'm in the process of teaching
the use of a sling as a shooting aid to my grandson.   
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