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Posted: December 30 2018 at 1:40pm | IP Logged Quote John P.

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My favorite Hi-Point video

Hi-
Point


Impressive! I wonder if my Glocks would stand up to what this Hi-Point
did?
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Posted: December 30 2018 at 4:52pm | IP Logged Quote REM1875

John
My first 10mm revolver is a Buckeye Ruger Convertible
10mm/38-40 ..... tried to get a 10mm Mag cylinder for
it but that didn't not go so well as it was bored a
hair too deep.......
I just got a Super RedHawk which is a massive gun.....
I haven't been able to get more than few rounds down it
yet but it tames the 10mm / 180 grain to a pussy cat.
Less felt recoil than the Buckeye... I like the 180 but
want to try out some 200 gr.....
I'll be reviewing my notes and loading more this spring
....
Kinda wish I got GP-100 instead but I got what was
available.
I see the they are doing a BlackHawk 10mm/40S&W this
year so that should open up some more ammo availability
and choices ....maybe .....
Wonder if that 40 S&W cylinder will match up to the
Buckeye ???


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Posted: December 30 2018 at 9:54pm | IP Logged Quote turbo1889

John Van Gelder wrote:
. . .
When you think of an aesthetically
pleasing semi auto the Browning Highpower
comes to mind. . . .


Berreta 92 decocker model is what comes to
my mind preferably in deep almost purple
blue with rosewood grips, to each their
own.

Since the 10mm came up again. In my
original post in this thread I did mention
that if I could only have one handgun
chamberings it would be 10mm. Download it
and you can make a pussycat out of it.
Load it all out and you can protect
yourself from or hunt anything currently
in the Western Hemisphere with it.

You can get carbine rifles both wood and
steel traditional or tactical modern black
rifles in that chambering. For handguns,
autos, revolvers, break action singles,
even derringers if your brave/crazy enough
can be had in that chambering if you look
around a little. Plus almost any gunshop
will have at least one loading in stock
for 10mm not so with a lot of other more
obscure chamberings.

So, yah, if I could only have one pistol
chambering it would be 10mm even over 357,
9mm, or 45 they might be a more common
choice but none of them have as wide as
span of capability as the 10mm has.

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Posted: December 31 2018 at 7:12am | IP Logged Quote John Van Gelder

I have a 5.5" Redhawk in .45 Colt, they are truly massive.

The 10mm, would be much more formidable in a revolver, in the auto, it is a close second to the .357.

Reminds me of the Herter's .401 Powermag.

There is nothing that is really "NEW", it's all been done before, a little tweaking here and there and you have "new and improved".

The 10mm was headed along the same path as the .41 Magnum, until the "nimrods" started using it for a hunting round.

It has always seemed to me that the .38-40 in a modern firearm, with solid head cases, would have put the other magnums to shame. I suspect that it would suffer from the same drawbacks as the other attempts at using bottle necked cases in revolvers.

I remember all of the fun we had with the .22Jet.
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Posted: January 01 2019 at 10:23am | IP Logged Quote RB in GA

REM1875 wrote:


I just got a Super RedHawk which is a massive gun.....
I haven't been able to get more than few rounds down it
yet but it tames the 10mm / 180 grain to a pussy cat.
Less felt recoil than the Buckeye... I like the 180 but
want to try out some 200 gr.....
I'll be reviewing my notes and loading more this spring
....
Kinda wish I got GP-100 instead but I got what was
available.



REM

Back in the early 90's when "Slick Willy" has just taken office Auto loaders like Glock were all the rage. Revolvers prices seemed to be dropping every month.

I picked up a NIB 7.5" SRH in 44mag for a little over $400 tax included. Until I started shooting this massive thing I really didn't comprehend how large and heavy it really was. It did tame recoil with stout 240g loads packed with 296, but the weight was another issue. After 25 rounds at the range my arms felt like I had been hauling conrete blocks around the range. Carrying in the field was another wake up call. I had this giant strapped shoulder holster arrangement that reminded me of some outlaw Mexican Bandito. It quickly found out a trim lever gun like a 94 more balanced was much easier to tote and you could lean it up against a tree.

I quickly traded the beast in for a 5.5" RH that could ride in a crossdraw even when sitting down in the truck. Makes me wonder how many SRH and SW 500 X-Frames spend their days locked up in the safe and rarely see the range or field?


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Posted: January 02 2019 at 6:24am | IP Logged Quote John Van Gelder

The Ruger Alaskan, a SRH with the barrel bobbed off at the barrel shroud, in .454, I bet those are a joy to shoot.

Not very much difference in the weight of the RH and the super in similar barrel lengths.

Packing those heavy guns around for a while is probably what made the 10mm Glocks so popular for woods carry.
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Posted: January 02 2019 at 6:41am | IP Logged Quote M700

Good points all.

RB - ya my 500 Smith & Wesson has just been a range toy for me. It's very big & heavy. I enjoy shooting it a few times a year, but have never hunted with it. On the other hand, taking the 5" 44 mag S&W 629 hunting is no problem.


John - I think you're right - the big revolvers are difficult to carry all day, when the goal is actually fly fishing, or hiking, or something. It's often easier to carry a flat, lighter, semi-auto. If I do that, I generally just settle for my 45 1911, however I've considered converting one of my 1911's to "45 Super"

I dunno. I'll probably just keep carrying my 357 or 44 revolvers when I want a revolver with me and the 45 1911 when I'd rather have the semi-auto.

BTW, I do tend to shoot the 1911 better. I do okay with the revolvers, but all that muscle-memory from those tens of thousands of 45's expended over the years... Ya, I do better with the 1911.

Guy
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Posted: January 02 2019 at 8:11am | IP Logged Quote John Van Gelder

Guy

The .45 Super is a pretty easy conversion, I am not sure that is really necessary. A good 240 gr. semi wadcutter in the 900-950 fps range is pretty potent, and a heavier recoil spring and a buffer is all you need.

Some of the older Speer manuals have load data for the .45ACP and their 260 gr. JHP bullets.

In the handload database, there are some .45ACP +P loads using a 260 gr, bullet.
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Ya, I'm pretty confident in my 45 ACP for protection.

I've been handloading for it, for over 30 years now. Used to mess around with some heavier bullet loads; 250, 260 grain. Anything that doesn't work well through the 1911 gets burned up in my son's 45 Ruger Blackhawk which has both the ACP and the 45 Colt cylinders.

If I did the "super" it would be mostly just for fun.

Guy
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I have a particular fondness for the .41 Mag when it comes to a "walking in the woods" gun and also for hammering away on a steel swinger. Deer hunting in a Wisconsin cedar swamp usually has me carrying a scoped .454 or reddotted .475...both throttled back a bit as the years take their toll. For concealed carry it's the .45 ACP in 1911's.

BUT..........a .44 Magnum could perform all of the above duties. A little 5 shot S&W M69 with 200gr. XTP's or Gold Dots makes a good CCW. For pleasant plinking 8 gr. or so of Unique under any of the 240 to 250 gr. cast bullets does a fine job. In an accurate revolver and with heavier loads the mighty .44 will work fine on deer and bear and do it all a recoil level I can still handle. I've had a brief flirtation with .500 Smith's but sold both of them and still have a couple hand cannons but not because the .44 wasn't killing deer.

So...I guess the .44 would be my favorite.

Randy

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Posted: January 03 2019 at 7:41am | IP Logged Quote John Van Gelder

I am not quite as adamant about above normal weight bullets in the .45ACP for field carry. My Lee 200 gr. (215 in my alloy), a RNFP bullet with a nice big meplat. This bullet feed nicely, on paper it cuts a full diameter hole, and you can get into the 1000 fps range with out straining your gun.

The semi-auto is more convenient to carry, and it is nice having a few more shots on hand. A Glock 21 in .45ACP gives you 14 chances the G21 10mm 16 and the Remington .45 is good for 16.

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